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ixtow

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It's interesting to watch the mis-informed wear their d!cks on their sleeves while accusing everyone else of it... I'd almost think they were LEOs from this behavior. :p

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes...ing=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.25.html

Florida Law said:
790.25 Lawful ownership, possession, and use of firearms and other weapons.—
(1) DECLARATION OF POLICY.—The Legislature finds as a matter of public policy and fact that it is necessary to promote firearms safety and to curb and prevent the use of firearms and other weapons in crime and by incompetent persons without prohibiting the lawful use in defense of life, home, and property, and the use by United States or state military organizations, and as otherwise now authorized by law, including the right to use and own firearms for target practice and marksmanship on target practice ranges or other lawful places, and lawful hunting and other lawful purposes.
(2) USES NOT AUTHORIZED.—
(a) This section does not authorize carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, as prohibited by ss. 790.01 and 790.02.
(b) The protections of this section do not apply to the following:
1. A person who has been adjudged mentally incompetent, who is addicted to the use of narcotics or any similar drug, or who is a habitual or chronic alcoholic, or a person using weapons or firearms in violation of ss. 790.07-790.115, 790.145-790.19, 790.22-790.24;
2. Vagrants and other undesirable persons as defined in 1s. 856.02;
3. A person in or about a place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05, unless such person is there for law enforcement or some other lawful purpose.
(3) LAWFUL USES.—The provisions of ss. 790.053 and 790.06 do not apply in the following instances, and, despite such sections, it is lawful for the following persons to own, possess, and lawfully use firearms and other weapons, ammunition, and supplies for lawful purposes:
(a) Members of the Militia, National Guard, Florida State Defense Force, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, organized reserves, and other armed forces of the state and of the United States, when on duty, when training or preparing themselves for military duty, or while subject to recall or mobilization;
(b) Citizens of this state subject to duty in the Armed Forces under s. 2, Art. X of the State Constitution, under chapters 250 and 251, and under federal laws, when on duty or when training or preparing themselves for military duty;
(c) Persons carrying out or training for emergency management duties under chapter 252;
(d) Sheriffs, marshals, prison or jail wardens, police officers, Florida highway patrol officers, game wardens, revenue officers, forest officials, special officers appointed under the provisions of chapter 354, and other peace and law enforcement officers and their deputies and assistants and full-time paid peace officers of other states and of the Federal Government who are carrying out official duties while in this state;
(e) Officers or employees of the state or United States duly authorized to carry a concealed weapon;
(f) Guards or messengers of common carriers, express companies, armored car carriers, mail carriers, banks, and other financial institutions, while actually employed in and about the shipment, transportation, or delivery of any money, treasure, bullion, bonds, or other thing of value within this state;
(g) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state, or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for target, skeet, or trap shooting, while at or going to or from shooting practice; or regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for modern or antique firearms collecting, while such members are at or going to or from their collectors’ gun shows, conventions, or exhibits;
(h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition;
(i) A person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person while engaged in the lawful course of such business;
(j) A person firing weapons for testing or target practice under safe conditions and in a safe place not prohibited by law or going to or from such place;
(k) A person firing weapons in a safe and secure indoor range for testing and target practice;
(l) A person traveling by private conveyance when the weapon is securely encased or in a public conveyance when the weapon is securely encased and not in the person’s manual possession;
(m) A person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a secure wrapper, concealed or otherwise, from the place of purchase to his or her home or place of business or to a place of repair or back to his or her home or place of business;
(n) A person possessing arms at his or her home or place of business;
(o) Investigators employed by the several public defenders of the state, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
1. Are employed full time;
2. Meet the official training standards for firearms established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(5) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and
3. Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the employing public defender and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the employing public defender resides.
(p) Investigators employed by the capital collateral regional counsel, while actually carrying out official duties, provided such investigators:
1. Are employed full time;
2. Meet the official training standards for firearms as established by the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission as provided in s. 943.12(1) and the requirements of ss. 493.6108(1)(a) and 943.13(1)-(4); and
3. Are individually designated by an affidavit of consent signed by the capital collateral regional counsel and filed with the clerk of the circuit court in the county in which the investigator is headquartered.
(4) CONSTRUCTION.—This act shall be liberally construed to carry out the declaration of policy herein and in favor of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes. This act is supplemental and additional to existing rights to bear arms now guaranteed by law and decisions of the courts of Florida, and nothing herein shall impair or diminish any of such rights. This act shall supersede any law, ordinance, or regulation in conflict herewith.
(5) POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.—Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and possession of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012.
So, is the law baiting the cops? Really? Ohoine up all the members of the Floriduh Hous of Representatives and Senate and tell them to stop baiting the cops!

Ess Tea Eff Ewe.

This is aboout how one can protect themselves while performing these activities, and the spiderweb of bullsh!t that could result in said activity being illegal by accident, thus negating these protections.

The art of the possible. It'd be nice to fix this stupid crap and get OC for Flooiduh. But since that's not possible, it's not a useful suggestion. We're practicing the art of the possible, not the demand of a pipe dream.

Fishing has it's own mess of regulations. If you're fishing illegally, then the protections of this section do not shield you. While this section of law is clear and easy to understand, the laws regarding fishing are not. It would be very, very easy for a person to break those laws and have no idea. Most of them are arbitrary and capricious, and all State Agencies charged with enforcing them LIE becasue they don't understand it themselves and want to issue forht an authoritative-sounding answer instead of admitting that they do not know, it's too complicated, and they can't figure it out, either. It's no different from asking a cop about the law; they don't know crap and will tell you whatever suits their ego trip at the moment becasue they're used to people bending over and accepting whatever they say.

Take your crappy attitude back to your own State if you can't contribute anything useful. Floriduh sucks. We know it. We live here... Go bark in the Jersey Forum and you'll get about the same... Floriduh is never going to be legitiamte OC, so we make do with what little we've got.

My standing inquiry is presented as such:

1) I roll out to the river on my rat bobber with 6 pre-made setlines. I am on my way to go fishing.
2) I set them. I am fishing.
3) I roll back home. I'm returning from fishing. But, how can I prove it? I don't have any fish. I don't have any fishing gear.

4) I roll out to check my setlines. I am on my way to go fishing. But, how can I prove it? I don't have any fish. I don't have any fishing gear.
5) I reach my sets. I check for fish. If I have one, I gut it. I rebait any empty hooks with the guts. I am fishing.
6) I roll back home. I might have a fish. I might not. I still don't have any gear. If I caught nothing, how do I prove I'm returning from fishing, which is precisely what I am doing.

I am not trying to "gimmick" it as an excuse to set my lines then trapse about wherever I want OCing, under the excuse that I am currently fishing becasue my setlines are out. I'm not trying to go there.

It also makes no sense for me becasue I don't live the tyupical counterfeit lifestyle that is called normal these days. I don't go to town, commute to a job, or go shopping. I don't have a daily routine; I am not a sheeple embeded in that stupidity. 99.999% of the time, I don't have anywhere else to go! I have no need to "gimmick" because where would I go to pull it off? I simply don't have daily places to go like so-called "normal" people in their silly rat maze. I am not one of you, so your presumptions fall flat.

"Everyone is the same and we all live the same life." Wrong. I am not one of you. Not even close. If my refusal to flatter you with immitation is so botehrsome, you should look inside for answers, but your weakness leads you to accuse me of being a mental defective.

May you serve your owners with a long life. I will not be joining you on the Plantation. U mad, bro? One way or another, I WILL NOT LIVE LIKE THAT.
 
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