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Mob of bikers surround SUV and get run over in NYC

onus

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Im not sure why this case is evoking such strong emotional responses from both sides.

This is a pretty basic case of criminal activity regardless of who is right or wrong.

2 months ago my local police department shot two unarmed men in the back killing one of them and there was a single article in the newspaper and that's it.

Shouldn't people be more outraged over that ?
 

georg jetson

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Im not sure why this case is evoking such strong emotional responses from both sides.

This is a pretty basic case of criminal activity regardless of who is right or wrong.

2 months ago my local police department shot two unarmed men in the back killing one of them and there was a single article in the newspaper and that's it.

Shouldn't people be more outraged over that ?

Which police dept was that?
 

onus

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You're saying your local police dept is in Cali and yet you list your location as Idaho. What's the deal?

Technology in the world has advanced so much that people today can travel across large distances quite easily and quickly.

People who are successful and have money can have more than one residence as well.
 

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Why would a man, 32 years old, with two kids, hang with a bunch of nitwits, displaying vast amounts of nitwittery. The paralyzed dude, unfortunately, reaped what he sowed. The SUV driver, in a NYC/NY courtroom will most likely be absolved of any criminal wrong doing and thus be found not liable in any civil proceedings. Juries tend to not tolerate thugs suing their victims after they have reaped what they sowed.

It would be poetic justice for the SUV driver to sue every one of those nitwits and win vast sums of scratch, so much so that those nitwits have to sell their bikes to pay the SUV driver. Dancing in the streets will be warranted on that day.
 

Sir Diealotz

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well go for a ride and wait till a cager tries to kill you. All SUV maniac had to do was slow down and they wouldve got bored in about .2 seconds and kept going. Plus he hit other riders who were nearby. The guy he paralyzed is 32 years old and has two kids.

LIke I said before: Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Maybe these squids will learn something from this incident and NOT try to mob intimidate other drivers on the road. I put 100% of the blame on the biker that DID brake check the SUV.

And for the record I am a "Cager" as you can see here LOL! I have lots of safety equipment, including a "Cage" :p

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WalkingWolf

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That unorganized bunch gives bikers and motorcycle owner riders a very bad image. They deserve what they got and all that can be identified should be charged, including for reckless driving. OR maybe the HA can step up and take care of the problem themselves. The organized biker clubs have gone through great lengths to improve biker image to have it ruined by these inconsiderate JERKS.
 

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That unorganized bunch gives bikers and motorcycle owner riders a very bad image. They deserve what they got and all that can be identified should be charged, including for reckless driving. OR maybe the HA can step up and take care of the problem themselves. The organized biker clubs have gone through great lengths to improve biker image to have it ruined by these inconsiderate JERKS.

Way to socially convict there. So no biker there was acting lawfully in your view? Sounds like how people label gun owners.

In Fairborn, five thugs broke into a home. Unfortunately for them, one of the college students renting that home was armed. He shot two of them. One died, and one was severely injured. The survivors were charged with murder. They pleaded guilty to manslaughter. The law considered the initial aggressors to be responsible for the death of one of their own--not the person acting in reasonable self-defense.

The biker MOB started this mess. Yes, the SUV driver killed and paralyzed two of the bikers. However, he was acting to defend himself from a MOB that anyone in his situation would reasonably believe presented imminent and grave danger to him and his family. I do not hold him responsible for the death and the injury. I don't think the law will either. I hold the biker MOB responsible for the injury and the death. I think the law will too.

Such a scenario would work, if all of the bikers had intent to commit a crime. There were people there for the event just to ride with others. Outside of these type of events, you never see dirt bike riders with touring riders.

If you acted in self defense, missing and hitting another(even if it was a friend of an attacker being a bystander not involved), you'd be charged. The scenario here is the same. The SUV should move, I don't believe he'll be very popular in the eyes of bikers and may even be a target if police don't charge him with a crime, especially for permanently paralyzing someone who was attempting to help during an accident.
 

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Guilt by association. If any of those nitwits wants to rehab their image then they should step forward and ID those amongst them that broke the law. That will regain them a place in the land of the law abiding where they may rightfully ridicule those nitwits that broke the law. Until then, all of them are guilty by mere association. Simplicity itself.
 

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Fallschirmjäger said:
I hate to sound judgmental but anyone standing up for the motorcyclists might want to reexamine his concepts of 'peaceful' and 'law abiding'.
These aren't "motorcyclists" and no one here has condoned their actions. They are called Squids for a reason. If they live they may eventually become motorcyclists.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid

Oh, PUH-lease. You're using pejorative language in a horribly poor attempt to make a point by ridicule that you can't make by logic. They are motorcyclists, they are riding and operating motorcycles.

LEO's are police officers not "pigs" even when they shoot innocent people; African-Americans remain African-American instead of n:cuss:rs when they riot and White Americans are still White and not 'crackers' even when they are buying and selling people of color.

Calling someone or a group a name is hardly the mark of reasoned discussion, Hamlet, perhaps you should use more maturity.
 
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HandyHamlet

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Oh, PUH-lease.

Sorry dude. Motorcyclists are motorcyclists. They obey laws. They teach, stop to help others stranded on the side of the road. They wear safety gear. They promote the culture in a positive light.

Saying anyone who owns a motorcycle is a motorcyclist is just stupid. You my friend are trying to vilify anything on two wheels because of the actions of a few. And your bias.

We must ...

You are free to assume anything you want. Doesn't make it true. Already posted several other scenarios multiple times. Just because you choose to ignore them does not mean there was only one possible scenario. Yours.

How are the video and the poorly written cr@pfest that started this mess one and the same? There is a video and then the clickbait. TWO DIFFERENT ANIMALS. The clickbait was the original, poorly written, one sided post that the sheep immediately adopted as gospel so they could post tough guy words.

The SUV stopped because he rear ended a Squid. My ONLY point was that Sheep dogs are really just sheep. You can't run people over because you don't like them. And the driver had no reason to run multiple people over multiple times as evidenced by the video.

More from a lefty rag and the narrative does not favor those who dream of running people over. Wonder why not...

http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/da-wont-charge-bike-assault-thug-in-suv-beating/

The Manhattan DA’s office won’t press charges against one of the motorcycle thugs who allegedly terrorized and beat a man after a wild chase on the West Side Highway, and is reluctant to prosecute another, sources said Wednesday.
 
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