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Latest man to die by Taser in Los Angeles

minarchist

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I found some revelations in this article.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9054887

There is a police Taser shooting nearly everyday in Los Angeles, and they kill three people a year!

[giagantic-government-loving, hypocritcal "conservative" lemming nutjob]But the police are wonderful, selfless, heroic angels who protect us, and even though most unions are bad, fortunately these angels have a union to protect them from those evil liberty-loving people who believe in the rule of law and actually holding everyone accountable.[/giagantic-government-loving, hypocritcal "conservative" lemming nutjob]
 

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[giagantic-government-loving, hypocritcal "conservative" lemming nutjob]But the police are wonderful, selfless, heroic angels who protect us, and even though most unions are bad, fortunately these angels have a union to protect them from those evil liberty-loving people who believe in the rule of law and actually holding everyone accountable.[/giagantic-government-loving, hypocritcal "conservative" lemming nutjob]

I recommend first: Lay off the caffeine.

Second, no person on here, or in the link, stating that so-called Liberty-loving People are Evil.

Who the hell are you to dictate what Liberty is to any other person? Mind your own business!:rolleyes:
 

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I recommend first: Lay off the caffeine.

Stop making false accusations.

Second, no person on here, or in the link, stating that so-called Liberty-loving People are Evil.

Big government liberals (who generally love federal law enforcement, yet, to their credit, often have some dislike for local law enforcement) and big government "conservatives" (who generally love local law enforcement, yet, to their credit, often have some dislike for federal law enforcement) have a burning hatred for small government, liberty-loving people (who want law enforcement massively reduced and kept in severe check).

Who the hell are you to dictate what Liberty is to any other person? Mind your own business!:rolleyes:

Who are you to tell me that I am dictating what liberty is to others when I demand that the government leave me alone?
 

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I recommend first: Lay off the caffeine.

Second, no person on here, or in the link, stating that so-called Liberty-loving People are Evil.

Who the hell are you to dictate what Liberty is to any other person? Mind your own business!:rolleyes:

P.S. A progressive like you sticking up for establishment "conservatives" just reinforces the conclusion of intelligent people that progressives and establishment "conservatives" aren't all that different (both welfare bums and military lifers/contracters certainly love sucking milk out of the government's breasts).
 

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P.S. A progressive like you sticking up for establishment "conservatives" just reinforces the conclusion of intelligent people that progressives and establishment "conservatives" aren't all that different (both welfare bums and military lifers/contracters certainly love sucking milk out of the government's breasts).


Good grief. You can have your so-called Intelligent people.

Enjoy your trench, because your going to be there a long time, alone, for the most part.
 

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Liberals and "establishment" conservatives love to pretend that Ron Paul and his son have few supporters.

No pretending, they in fact have fewer supporters than say: Romney. This is the part where reality meets your face. Now, you can accept that wiggling on your face is reality, or you can reject it, and walk around with 'nothing' on your face.
 

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There really should be some rules on when one can employ a taser, even though they are non-letal, they do have the potential to be lethal and should be treated as such. They are currently used willy nilly for no good reason other than someone is doing something the officer doesn't like. There are a good number of instances where people are tased for refusing to comply, even when the refusal of compliance is within their rights as a citizen.
 

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No pretending, they in fact have fewer supporters than say: Romney. This is the part where reality meets your face. Now, you can accept that wiggling on your face is reality, or you can reject it, and walk around with 'nothing' on your face.

We should really define what "support" means. Very few people these days actually support a candidate, they support the party a particular candidate is endorsed by. You could let Satan run as the Republican parties candidate, and he would probably get more votes than any independent candidate, because frankly people don't research who they are voting for as long as they are affiliated with their party of choice.
 

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1. I am not convinced of the non-lethality of any device that puts 5,000 volts of electricity through the human body at any amperage.
2. I am convinced that, should the barbs of a taser be placed in such a manner as to put the voltage across the heart, that the likelihood of cardiac fibrillation and death is far more likely. Alcohol and drugs increase this likelihood.
3. I will also agree that an improperly used baton is very dangerous, but I do not believe a taser is any less dangerous.


No, I am not a doctor nor do I play one on television. What I am is a retired electronics tech that was taught a long time ago to never give electricity of any voltage or amperage a path across the heart. We were taught early on in our training to put our left hand in our pocket while troubleshooting circuitry to avoid that possibility.

Now, you have my .02 worth.
 

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No pretending, they in fact have fewer supporters than say: Romney. This is the part where reality meets your face. Now, you can accept that wiggling on your face is reality, or you can reject it, and walk around with 'nothing' on your face.

A lot of Romney supporters were sheeple mindlessly supporting whomever they were told to support.

Out of curioisity, why are you, a notorious progressive, sticking up for the other side? Could it be that progressives and neoconservative scum are close buddies behind closed doors?
 

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We should really define what "support" means. Very few people these days actually support a candidate, they support the party a particular candidate is endorsed by. You could let Satan run as the Republican parties candidate, and he would probably get more votes than any independent candidate, because frankly people don't research who they are voting for as long as they are affiliated with their party of choice.

I tried explaining this to her, but I am sure that she will insist that mindlessly backing whomever gets the nomination constitutes true support.
 

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A lot of Romney supporters were sheeple mindlessly supporting whomever they were told to support.

Out of curioisity, why are you, a notorious progressive, sticking up for the other side? Could it be that progressives and neoconservative scum are close buddies behind closed doors?

Ah so if people support your candidate Ron "Frequent Flyer" Paul they're intelligent patriots, and if they don't then they're mindless sheeple...... What an elitist attitude
 

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1. I am not convinced of the non-lethality of any device that puts 5,000 volts of electricity through the human body at any amperage.
2. I am convinced that, should the barbs of a taser be placed in such a manner as to put the voltage across the heart, that the likelihood of cardiac fibrillation and death is far more likely. Alcohol and drugs increase this likelihood.
3. I will also agree that an improperly used baton is very dangerous, but I do not believe a taser is any less dangerous.


No, I am not a doctor nor do I play one on television. What I am is a retired electronics tech that was taught a long time ago to never give electricity of any voltage or amperage a path across the heart. We were taught early on in our training to put our left hand in our pocket while troubleshooting circuitry to avoid that possibility.

Now, you have my .02 worth.

+1 Electricity is not a toy to be used frivolously on people. If you do, then IMO you should be held accountable for your actions.
 

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Ah so if people support your candidate Ron "Frequent Flyer" Paul they're intelligent patriots, and if they don't then they're mindless sheeple...... What an elitist attitude

I didn't quite get that from his post...I would further it to say the same about Obama supporters. Generally those who support independents have done some research on the person and do actually support the person. Those who vote Republican or Democrat at every election regardless of who the candidate is are not truly supporting a person, they are supporting their party of choice.

I could be wrong though, it's possible he meant what you said.
 

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No pretending, they in fact have fewer supporters than say: Romney. This is the part where reality meets your face. Now, you can accept that wiggling on your face is reality, or you can reject it, and walk around with 'nothing' on your face.

Rand Paul is a senator from a decent size state. That means he has alot of supporters. Rand Paul's support is also growing larger every day.

I dont think there is any truth to your statement that Ron/Rand have fewer supporters than Romney. Many voters in the Republican party made a tactical decision to vote for Romney in primaries because they thought he had a better chance at winning a general election. That doesnt mean there is any less support for the Pauls. No matter who the republican candidate was they were going to get about 49% of the vote. If Ron Paul had been the general election candidate he would have gotten that amount.

you seem awfully cantankerous recently. whats wrong ?
 
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Ah so if people support your candidate Ron "Frequent Flyer" Paul they're intelligent patriots, and if they don't then they're mindless sheeple...... What an elitist attitude

Because when every other candidate is a smirking, immature, corrupt a$$hole, the people who support the honest, sincere candidate with integrity are the bad guys.

Not.
 

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There really should be some rules on when one can employ a taser, even though they are non-letal, they do have the potential to be lethal and should be treated as such. They are currently used willy nilly for no good reason other than someone is doing something the officer doesn't like. There are a good number of instances where people are tased for refusing to comply, even when the refusal of compliance is within their rights as a citizen.

Are you asserting that PDs do not have rules for deploying tasters?
 

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Ah so if people support your candidate Ron "Frequent Flyer" Paul they're intelligent patriots, and if they don't then they're mindless sheeple...... What an elitist attitude

Seriously.

I am beginning to wonder if it is possible for him to express an opinion without belittling those who disagree with him. I wonder if it is not a function of his choice of posters with whom he regularly converses. There are so many good conversations; he could do better.
 

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Are you asserting that PDs do not have rules for deploying tasters?

Not stringent enough rules. And if they do, they don't seem to be followed too well. Or else people wouldn't be being tasered for things that aren't even against the law. They use it as a tool to force conformity regardless of the situation. IMO tasers should only be used on someone who is a violent threat. Not as a catch all for any behavior that the officer doesn't approve of.
 
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