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Just curious... your thoughts on Glock Pistols

Glock214

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I added the cost and potions up just for fun one day on a Wilson Combat Tactical Elite, it came in at over 5.:eek:

I think I quoted a brand new gen 4 23 prior to buying mine customized with as much as I could find at the time on a glock website I found, and it was close to 1k but that was including shipping and ffl transfer fee. No where near 5k. I love that Glocks are inexpensive, I can get em with out saving a lot of pop cans lol
 

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I think they're great guns. Their worth (reliability and accuracy for value) has been proven over and over again, so there's no point in arguing that.

That being said, I think it's a little weird to have to pull the trigger to strip a semi-auto. I'm not saying it's a bad design, as it's just a result of their simplicity. It's just that it leaves a lot of room for operator error. It's also nice to know that if I screw up, decock my Walther, field strip it and find a round still in the chamber that I'll only feel like an idiot instead of having bleeding ear drums and a hole in my floor/wall.

The one design fault I will give the Glock is the grip. If it wasn't for the grip I would have had a much harder time choosing between my P99 and a Glock 19. Even still, now that I know what I do about the XD line, I'd probably go for one of those before I would a Glock. It's a bit more comforatable, the angle is better. The only way I'd buy a Glock is if there was a grip sleeve that I KNOW would make it feel good.

I disagree that it's a dangerous gun, but just like any other weapon with unique features, proper training is important. And if I had to use one in a life or death situation I would gladly trust my life to it. IMO they're like the Honda Civic of guns: totally reliable, completely customizable, and they just work-even when abused (ok ok, the Honda will have serious blue smoke issues if abused, but it'll still work).
 

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I think they're great guns. Their worth (reliability and accuracy for value) has been proven over and over again, so there's no point in arguing that.

That being said, I think it's a little weird to have to pull the trigger to strip a semi-auto. I'm not saying it's a bad design, as it's just a result of their simplicity. It's just that it leaves a lot of room for operator error. It's also nice to know that if I screw up, decock my Walther, field strip it and find a round still in the chamber that I'll only feel like an idiot instead of having bleeding ear drums and a hole in my floor/wall.

The one design fault I will give the Glock is the grip. If it wasn't for the grip I would have had a much harder time choosing between my P99 and a Glock 19. Even still, now that I know what I do about the XD line, I'd probably go for one of those before I would a Glock. It's a bit more comforatable, the angle is better. The only way I'd buy a Glock is if there was a grip sleeve that I KNOW would make it feel good.

I disagree that it's a dangerous gun, but just like any other weapon with unique features, proper training is important. And if I had to use one in a life or death situation I would gladly trust my life to it. IMO they're like the Honda Civic of guns: totally reliable, completely customizable, and they just work-even when abused (ok ok, the Honda will have serious blue smoke issues if abused, but it'll still work).


I do agree with you, I don't like having to pull the trigger to field strip my Glock. I also find that the gen 4 grip is a bit on the rough side, took a while to get used to it, I've thought about putting a sleeve on it but have kind of gotten used to it. Still is tough on my hands when I fire a few hundred rounds through it though. I sometimes wear gloves too just to get comfortable shooting with gloves on in the event I'm outside and it's cold and I need to shoot for defensive purposes. They (Glocks) will stand up to almost anything, and still go bang when you pull the trigger, slide may lock back depending on what you did to it, however the fact that it will fire is awsome. I don't abuse mine other than, it not being fired as often as I know it should be. lol.
 

GlockIt

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do they even make 18's anymore?


Yup their suppose to have a generation4 18c coming out.

Id really like to get a generation3 18. To bad you cant though.

The Glock 33 has caught my eye, a .357 sub compact. The pocket rocket.

For now I will just stick to my generation3 19, it works just fine.
 
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DrTodd

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My EDC is a Gen 3 G23. I can conceal it well: just a cheap, simple Blackhawk IWB like this 99284758-450x450-0-0_Hawk+Blackhawk+IWB+Inside+The+Pants+Pistol+Clip+Ho.jpg

or, if I am choosing to deep conceal, I use this: standard.jpg

However, I usually OC and only use the two above if I am doing something that demands I conceal.

In regards to handguns, I also owned the following before they were all lost in a very unfortunate boating accident: a NA Arms .22mag with the beltclip holster, a Heritage .22/ .22 mag that I used for squirrel hunting, a p64 in 9mm (Mak), a Nagant 1895 (7.62×38mmR), and a Ruger Redhawk in .44mag with a 7" Barrel. I would sometimes OC the .44mag when I was going shooting sometime during the day and sometimes the p64 when I wanted to "blend in". I almost always had my NA arms revolver on me and it was my "close-up and personal" bug, but I oc'd that too to avoid having to inform if I was OC. But, since the accident... ;)

When I was going to buy my first CC handgun, I went with the Glock 23 listed above. I love it. IF people have a problem but it works for you, then who cares? One of my most embarrassing new OC moments was having the Glock in an OWB holster without any retention get knocked out of the holster when I was up on my roof doing some repairs. The pistol slid down the roof, fell a few feet to the lower section of roof, dropped off that ledge, hit my ladder, hit my deck, and tumbled down on to rocky ground. No discharge, no damage besides the edge of the rear sight had a small gash. I thought about taking it out but have decided to leave it there as a memento of my foolishness. I think Glocks are as safe as anything else I would carry, as I would never use a manual safety anyway. Keep your finger off the trigger and it should not be a problem. (Regarding reloaded ammo in a Glock, that is another issue with which I don't wish to derail this thread. Google it if you need more information)

* I did add reinforcement to my Smartcarry holster in the area near the trigger guard; when wearing the holster and re-holstering I noticed that the fabric could conceivably enter the trigger guard; I have enough children already but a shot "there" would NOT be enjoyable at all. But, as I said, any pistol would be a concern because I would never use the external safety anyway.
 
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DrTodd

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I do agree with you, I don't like having to pull the trigger to field strip my Glock. I also find that the gen 4 grip is a bit on the rough side, took a while to get used to it, I've thought about putting a sleeve on it but have kind of gotten used to it. Still is tough on my hands when I fire a few hundred rounds through it though. I sometimes wear gloves too just to get comfortable shooting with gloves on in the event I'm outside and it's cold and I need to shoot for defensive purposes. They (Glocks) will stand up to almost anything, and still go bang when you pull the trigger, slide may lock back depending on what you did to it, however the fact that it will fire is awsome. I don't abuse mine other than, it not being fired as often as I know it should be. lol.

My P64 makes me more nervous than my Glock because it is a little more complicated and makes "less sense" to me. Yes, you pull the trigger on the Glock BUT I always double check and stick my pinkie in the chamber and look in the chamber, hoping to see lots of light through the barrel. Overkill, maybe. Better that, though, than to pull the trigger and shoot the neighbor through my wall. But, when I have reassembled it, I know quickly that everything is ready to go. Simple beats complicated every time.
 
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GlockIt

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Keep your finger off the trigger and it should not be a problem. (Regarding reloaded ammo in a Glock, that is another issue with which I don't wish to derail this thread. Google it if you need more information.

Agree. I think alot of people arent doing their homework before they start bashing
the Glock safety.

Just because there isnt an external safety doesent mean its not safe.

I do think however, if you own a glock, you must have a bit more conscience
when handling the weapon. If you pull the trigger its gonna shoot.

Isnt that what guns are suppose to do in the first place?
 
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army74

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Glock handguns

Ive owned tauraus,glock,ruger and smith and wesson. Ive gone back to the glock 19 very accurate and i loved mine when i get more money ill get the smith & wesson mp9 again
 

matt2636

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g21 for sidearm of choice. you cant beat the tennifer finish on a glock. you just cant. ive heard of melonite and other stuff but the tennifer seems more tried and true. high tang grip and light weight. im also a 1911 fanatic but always find my way back to my g21 for carry. they are also stupid easy to detail strip. i mean stupid easy. and i dont think you could put it back together wrong. so basically if you broke something you can replace it. they arnt the smallest .45 by any means but im use to it now it feels really good in my hands (thats what she said) ill put it this way if i were to visit another planet and i could only take one pistol it would be my g21 hands down. i really wish NASA would do some space testing with the glock.
 

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without side-tracking the thread any further than it has been...

Who cares what anyone else thinks of your choice of make/model?(caliber choices are fair game for criticism, however lol)

Glocks are fine pistols, from a design standpoint. When new-especially women- shooters, ask me what I think they should get for a 1st, defensive sidearm, the Glock is usually the 1st thing I mention. For it's AK-like reliability, and it's simplicity of use under duress.

For me, personally though, most of their .45 models just dont fit my hands well. Even their newer "slim" versions, and I prefer a hammer-firing method with a thumb safety and/or de-cocker vs. a striker fired method. But that's just my prefs. Im not at all opposed to the Glocks.
 

Reverend73

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Glocks, XDs and the like are superb for defensive carry for two reasons. They are simple to operate and they are extremely reliable. I have taken four, 4-day defensive handgun classes and for the very first one I used a 1911. I did well, but you should not underestimate getting the safety off under the extreme duress you would be under if in a life or death gunfight. It took me most of the class to develop the muscle memory required to disengage the safety prior to sights on target. The next two classes I used a Glock 21. SO much simpler to present the weapon and fire. No matter what gun you choose, you definitely need to train defensively with it if you plan to use it to defend yourself.

Brian
 

Mas49.56

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Glocks are great. Being an avid firearms collector/shooter, I have or have had and shot, 1911's, Cz's, Broomhandles, DesertEagles, KelTek380/32, XDm9mm, FN 5.7, etc... Most have been well made and reliable. BUT, for me personally, the Glock is my first choice as a defensive sidearm. In a high stress situation it is the only one I have shot that becomes a part of me and will shoot exactly where I want without using the sights. Just my biased opinion. :dude: G23(black), G23(OD), G23C, G21, G27, G29, G17(first generation about 25 years old and still going strong after many thousands of rounds!)

0 Gun related malfunctions of any of my Glocks now into my 3rd decade of shooting them. All I do is just change out the springs annually and clean them.
 

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stainless1911 said:
I'd buy a Glock 18 in a second.
I wish I had that much money!
If they're still made, they're only available to LEA (Glock policy), so the few that were/are in normal-citizen hands before the policy went into effect became very valuable.

SovereignAxe said:
I think it's a little weird to have to pull the trigger to strip a semi-auto.
That's the one feature I don't like.
IIRC, the XD is very similar in grip angle and so on, but has a grip safety & you don't pull the trigger to disassemble.

SA said:
The one design fault I will give the Glock is the grip.
The only way I'd buy a Glock is if there was a grip sleeve that I KNOW would make it feel good.
Get an old bicycle inner tube & cut a piece to length, then slip it over the grip.
It's cheap, easy to trim away from the mag release, trigger guard, & so on, & will solve that gen4 grip problem.
I hate the gen4 grips. I will never buy one. WTH were they thinking: "hey, let's make this painful to hold & shoot, so nobody will want to practice with it or use it in competition!"

GlockIt said:
I think a lot of people aren't doing their homework before they start bashing the Glock safety. Just because there isn't an external safety doesn't mean it's not safe.
:banghead:
There is so an external safety - it's built into the trigger. See the center part that sticks out funny & blocks the trigger from moving back? Putting your finger on the trigger takes that safety off & allows the 2 internal safeties to get out of the way when the trigger is pulled.

Have fun with this interactive Glock.

If you pull the trigger it's gonna shoot.
Isn't that what guns are supposed to do in the first place?
Exactly.

matt2636 said:
i really wish NASA would do some space testing with the glock.
To what end?
If the person shooting isn't braced, they'll go tumbling & waste a lot of the E[sub]k[/sub].
The bullet won't drop nearly as much 'cause of the microgravity,
& if it's shot in a vaccuum it will keep going until it hits something 'cause there's no air resistance.
 

xarmy9

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I've got a Glock 30 that I OC. Before that I had a Taurus PT-145. The Taurus is probably the best gun I've ever fired. It fit my hand perfectly and after a lot of practice, the thumb safety was not an issue. The problem with my Taurus is that I can't seem to find a good retention holster that I like to OC it. It's a first-gen PT-145 without rails. So when I wanted to OC I got the Glock 30 (I prefer the .45) because it was easy to find a good retention holster for, it was the Glock that fit my hand the best, and it's a 10 round magazine. I chose Glock because of their reliability. That being said there are a lot of things about the Glock that annoy me, and one thing in particular that I absolutely hate. There is a gap between the bottom of the grip and the end of the magazine which pinches my little finger. The solution is a grip extender for the magazine which cost me about $10/mag. Why can't Glock just include that on their magazines.

I agree that for the most part your choice of firearm shouldn't be solely on the opinion of others. While some firearms are "better" than others, if you're not comfortable with the one you chose, it'll never be the "best" one you could use.
 
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I've got a glock 22 RTF 2, I had to sand the frame a bit for it to stop chewing up my clothing, but I love it, fits my hand better than my M&P or P7E
 
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Beretta92FSLady

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Initially I was deciding between a Glock 19, and a S&W Sigma. I picked up the Sigma because the slide and the sight acquisition worked better for me but the trigger pull was terrible! Later, I picked up my Beretta92fs, and it has been my carry. I initially missed the lighter weight.

The angle of the grip with my Beretta felt more natural than with the Glock. Also, it has just seemed awkward to me to have such a square slide. If I do move from my Beretta to something lighter, it will be a Glock 19...I would miss the all-steel though.

I was watching a youtube video where they fired a thousand rounds or so through the glock, the spring broke on the slide but the damn thing kept firing, not one hickup if I remember right.
 

T-Bone

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Glocks Rock!

I bought my first Glock 2 months ago. Its a Glock 30. I'm picking up my Glock 26 tomorrow. I simply fell in love with them.
 
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