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Gun Buyback, no money, sorry!

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Gun buy program, citizen turns in gun.... thenread what happened. :cuss:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-liguns2412301475dec24,0,5855767.story

Mark DeAngelis heard that Suffolk County was giving people $200 gift cards to turn in illegal handguns last weekend, so he looked behind a rafter in a warehouse he rents and found a revolver he stashed there 20 years ago, he said.

He called Suffolk's Third Precinct in Bay Shore, confirmed that they were still doing the program and then drove there and turned over the gun, he said.

But after he handed the gun to the officer, he said he got bad news: There was no money left.

"He basically said, 'You just gave me an illegal handgun. We're out of money. Do you have a problem with that?' " said DeAngelis, 43, of Patchogue, who said he bought the gun to get it out of the hands of a man he considered dangerous.

"He said he would give me a receipt if I went in the back and showed him some ID," DeAngelis said. "I just walked out. I thought the whole point was that the program was supposed to be anonymous."

Lt. Bob Donohue, commanding officer of the department's Community Outreach Bureau, said it's true that the department burned through the $15,000 in state grants it had set aside for the buy back program this weekend after about 95 guns were turned in - more than they ever expected. But he said people do not need to give their names to officers to get a receipt. If officers asked anyone for ID or a phone number, it was probably just so they could call them to let them know when additional gift cards have come in, he said.

He said additional Visa gift cards will be ordered tomorrow and should be in within about a week.

But DeAngelis wasn't the only person who said he was asked to identify himself.

A 42-year-old Port Jefferson Station woman, who asked that her name not be used for fear of repercussions, said she turned in seven illegal guns that had belonged to her father, who passed away 13 years ago. She said she balked when she was asked for her name and phone number.

"How is that anonymous?" she asked. "Anonymous is not 'Give us your name and number and in two weeks you'll get your gift card.' "

Nassau, which also held a gun buyback this weekend, also ran out of money after more than 400 people brought in illegal guns. After the cash they had on hand was gone, church officials who coordinated the program gave people anonymous vouchers that they can bring back this weekend for cash.

Donohue said Suffolk ran out of money by Sunday, but continued writing receipts through Tuesday. He said as of Tuesday night, people turning in illegal guns would not be given gift cards or get their guns back.

"If they hand us an illegal handgun and we have no money, we can't give back the gun," he said.
 

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Even if you did get 92 guns off the street, so what? That's like saying the war on drugs is winning because, hey, look at all this pot we just confiscated! :quirky
 

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I wouldn't bother turning in any of my guns for $200 unless it was a junk gun. mine are worth more than $200 a piece.
 

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Tumbleweeds wrote:
I wouldn't bother turning in any of my guns for $200 unless it was a junk gun. mine are worth more than $200 a piece.

I wish they had one of these in my area. There's a shop here selling Mosin-Nagants for $100. After tax I'd be looking at $94 profit per gun. So I go buy 20 of them, turn them all in, take my $1,880 profit and.... go buy more and more and more, rinse, repeat until they're all out. $$$$$$
 

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AWDstylez wrote:
I wish they had one of these in my area. There's a shop here selling Mosin-Nagants for $100. After tax I'd be looking at $94 profit per gun. So I go buy 20 of them, turn them all in, take my $1,880 profit and.... go buy more and more and more, rinse, repeat until they're all out. $$$$$$
Sounds good. But, suppose they are out of money when you get there? And they won't let you take the rifles with you when you leave for whatever reason? It will cost you more than $1,880 to hire an attorney. Don't even suggest there is no possibiity that this could happen where you live. :)
 

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AWDstylez wrote:
Tumbleweeds wrote:
I wouldn't bother turning in any of my guns for $200 unless it was a junk gun. mine are worth more than $200 a piece.

I wish they had one of these in my area.  There's a shop here selling Mosin-Nagants for $100.  After tax I'd be looking at $94 profit per gun.  So I go buy 20 of them, turn them all in, take my $1,880 profit and.... go buy more and more and more, rinse, repeat until they're all out.  $$$$$$
No, you'd be out $2120, because you wouldn't see one red cent from the "buy"back.
 

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Sheriff wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:
I wish they had one of these in my area. There's a shop here selling Mosin-Nagants for $100. After tax I'd be looking at $94 profit per gun. So I go buy 20 of them, turn them all in, take my $1,880 profit and.... go buy more and more and more, rinse, repeat until they're all out. $$$$$$
Sounds good. But, suppose they are out of money when you get there? And they won't let you take the rifles with you when you leave for whatever reason? It will cost you more than $1,880 to hire an attorney. Don't even suggest there is no possibiity that this could happen where you live. :)


Pay first, product after. :p

The only reason they wouldn't let those people take the guns back is because they were purchased illegally. Misleading and dishonest, yes. But how much sympathy do you really feel for someone that, #1: gets their guns illegally, and #2: is stupid enough to participate in a "buy back"?
 

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Um, isn't the point of the buyback to get illegal guns off the streets? I guess the money is better spent paying AWDstylez to buy Nagants to have destroyed. :quirky
 

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IF this is such a great idea....why don't they do the same things for drugs?

Say, the police give $xxx for each kilo of grass or coke brought in? I know I'm missing something here, but they're both illegal, they're both manufactured items, right?
 

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I'll bet that there wasn't one "illegal" firearm turned in. There's no such thing as a legal or illegal firearm. Legally or illegally purchased, possessed, or used firearms, yes.

:banghead:
 

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Task Force 16 wrote:
I'll bet that there wasn't one "illegal" firearm turned in. There's no such thing as a legal or illegal firearm. Legally or illegally purchased, possessed, or used firearms, yes.

:banghead:

This was kind of my first thought too. How are they defining an illegal firearm? Are they running an amnesty program for convicted felons that have a firearm?

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This was kind of my first thought too. How are they defining an illegal firearm? Are they running an amnesty program for convicted felons that have a firearm?


That's basically it.They pay criminals for the privilege of destroying evidence for them.
 

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Heartless_Conservative wrote:
This was kind of my first thought too. How are they defining an illegal firearm? Are they running an amnesty program for convicted felons that have a firearm?


That's basically it.They pay criminals for the privilege of destroying evidence for them.

Sooo.....

The authoirities are providing a window of oppertunity for people to murder someone and then have the weapon, that would tie them to the murder, destroyed by the police....... no questions asked.

BRILLIANT!!!!!

Why exactly do we have law enforcement again?
 

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I must be super slow. What exactly is an illegal gun? Like a cut off shotgun or what? I mean I understand you can be inillegal possession ofa gun if you have been convicted of a felony. but, I'm super confused. This whole thing sounds super retarded. It's fishy from A-Z.
 

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Jizzzle wrote:
I must be super slow. What exactly is an illegal gun? Like a cut off shotgun or what? I mean I understand you can be inillegal possession ofa gun if you have been convicted of a felony. but, I'm super confused. This whole thing sounds super retarded. It's fishy from A-Z.
Nah, your not slow. It's theanti-gunners that put on these stupid gun buy back schemes that are slow.
 

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it just pisses me off. do they really not get the big picture? are they stuck in thier microenvironment so absolutely that they support what the media spins without a second thought?
 

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Jizzzle wrote:
I must be super slow. What exactly is an illegal gun? Like a cut off shotgun or what? I mean I understand you can be inillegal possession ofa gun if you have been convicted of a felony. but, I'm super confused. This whole thing sounds super retarded. It's fishy from A-Z.
In the land of the unfree you must register your firearms. Any firearm that is not registered is an illegal gun.
 

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I really don't understand the term gun buy back because the gun was never the property of the police in the first place.

If giving money for a person's property is a buy back, then promising to give money, taking the gun and not givingmoney would be a:

gun steal back.
 

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marshaul wrote:
Um, isn't the point of the buyback to get illegal guns off the streets? I guess the money is better spent paying AWDstylez to buy Nagants to have destroyed. :quirky



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