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Got Carded at WaWa

FreedomVA

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So, i was at wawa to get gas and smokes......this is the wawa i visit frequently to and from work and never been carded before.

This time there's a new cashier and she carded me, so OK, gave her my ID, she looked at it and verified i was at age to buy tobacco.( i know bad habit) Then before i had a chance she started to scanned my ID without consent, WTF......this is the kind of privacy infringements i complained about all the time and i worry for the future generations.
 

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So, i was at wawa to get gas and smokes......this is the wawa i visit frequently to and from work and never been carded before.

This time there's a new cashier and she carded me, so OK, gave her my ID, she looked at it and verified i was at age to buy tobacco.( i know bad habit) Then before i had a chance she started to scanned my ID without consent, WTF......this is the kind of privacy infringements i complained about all the time and i worry for the future generations.

that's not a privacy infringement.
 

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You consented.
To look at, to check the birth date, not to “scan” it, whatever that means.

I’m afraid that I would’ve made my lack of consent abundantly clear the instant the clerk did something other than look at my ID, like ripping it out of her hand.
 

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To look at my ID to verify my DOB for lawful purchased is one thing......

To take my ID and scanned it into the company computer database for storage, collections , sell my info to their advertisers? and it's somewhere in Quantum Leaped never never land..../ IDK....and frankly i don't care. I did not consent for them to do it in that manner. I did consent for the cashier to visually look at my ID for my DOB.....



I see it as similar to you consenting for a person to touch your firearm......to look and inspect it , but not shot it......So, in your thinking, it's ok for someone to shoot your firearm, even after you told them that they can only look at it and not shoot it?

Also, please keep in mind, your ID contains all your your essential information on there.
 
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So, i was at wawa to get gas and smokes......this is the wawa i visit frequently to and from work and never been carded before.

This time there's a new cashier and she carded me, so OK, gave her my ID, she looked at it and verified i was at age to buy tobacco.( i know bad habit) Then before i had a chance she started to scanned my ID without consent, WTF......this is the kind of privacy infringements i complained about all the time and i worry for the future generations.
COV § 18.2-371.2. C. No person shall sell a tobacco product, nicotine vapor product, or alternative nicotine product to any individual who does not demonstrate, by producing a driver's license or similar photo identification issued by a government agency, that the individual is at least 18 years of age. Such identification is not required from an individual whom the person has reason to believe is at least 18 years of age or who the person knows is at least 18 years of age. Proof that the person demanded, was shown, and reasonably relied upon a photo identification stating that the individual was at least 18 years of age shall be a defense to any action brought under this subsection. In determining whether a person had reason to believe an individual is at least 18 years of age, the trier of fact may consider, but is not limited to, proof of the general appearance, facial characteristics, behavior, and manner of the individual.
Produce does not mean copy.
 

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To look at, to check the birth date, not to “scan” it, whatever that means.

I’m afraid that I would’ve made my lack of consent abundantly clear the instant the clerk did something other than look at my ID, like ripping it out of her hand.
She did it before i even i had a chance......if i would've of ripped it our of her hands, then it would've been assault...
 

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Uh reach puberty and grow facial hair or quit smoking [tongue in cheek of course]

Remember of course, their company policies prevail -period!

might consider shopping elsewhere?
 

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Final thought...

Contact district manager for clarification on their ‘policies’ and remember not to jump up and down against the sales clerk as they may not have been following policy cuz they misunderstood or perhaps, just perhaps they weren’t trained appropriately, or?

Point out mgmt is the the only enity to fix issue !
 

color of law

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Uh reach puberty and grow facial hair or quit smoking [tongue in cheek of course]

Remember of course, their company policies prevail -period!

might consider shopping elsewhere?
Actually not. Walmart holds a state license to dispense cigarettes. What comes along with that license are the laws that are attached to that license. Virgina law provides the method as to how ID must be handled.
 

FreedomVA

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Uh reach puberty and grow facial hair or quit smoking [tongue in cheek of course]

Remember of course, their company policies prevail -period!

might consider shopping elsewhere?
I got Sheetz, but female cashier aren't as hot there.
 

hammer6

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To look at, to check the birth date, not to “scan” it, whatever that means.

I’m afraid that I would’ve made my lack of consent abundantly clear the instant the clerk did something other than look at my ID, like ripping it out of her hand.

To look at my ID to verify my DOB for lawful purchased is one thing......

To take my ID and scanned it into the company computer database for storage, collections , sell my info to their advertisers? and it's somewhere in Quantum Leaped never never land..../ IDK....and frankly i don't care. I did not consent for them to do it in that manner. I did consent for the cashier to visually look at my ID for my DOB.....

no, you "handed it" to her. That's on you.

I see it as similar to you consenting for a person to touch your firearm......to look and inspect it , but not shot it......

If you hand someone a loaded firearm to "look and inspect it", that is irresponsible on your part. If there's any concern they may shoot it, that's your first red flag that they should not be touching your firearm.

So, in your thinking, it's ok for someone to shoot your firearm, even after you told them that they can only look at it and not shoot it?

not even close.
 

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1. There are still times when you must hand your credit card to someone for them to process your payment.

Does that mean you have given them license to do what they will with the card??? Of course not.

When you hand your license to a person to check your birthdate, then that is the only license you are giving to them.

2. Snatching your own property out of someone’s hand is not assault. Grabbing his or her hand would be. (It’s not like ripping his or her own MAGA hat off his or her own head.)

3. When I process a firearm sale, I temporarily take into my possession the purchaser’s military ID and DL. If they refuse to hand them over to me, the sale will simply not happen. So a blanket Do-not-hand-your-ID-to-anyone policy might not always be effective. A better policy would be: Be judicious when deciding to whom to hand your ID.
 

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1. There are still times when you must hand your credit card to someone for them to process your payment.

Does that mean you have given them license to do what they will with the card??? Of course not.

When you hand your license to a person to check your birthdate, then that is the only license you are giving to them.

2. Snatching your own property out of someone’s hand is not assault. Grabbing his or her hand would be. (It’s not like ripping his or her own MAGA hat off his or her own head.)

3. When I process a firearm sale, I temporarily take into my possession the purchaser’s military ID and DL. If they refuse to hand them over to me, the sale will simply not happen. So a blanket Do-not-hand-your-ID-to-anyone policy might not always be effective. A better policy would be: Be judicious when deciding to whom to hand your ID.

First bank card, can’t use [except < 50 at fast foods per se] without PIN or ZIP or signature?

Second, I suppose i have missed that ploy at LGS or big box stores and ya know all the years researching ATF’s mandates did i nevew saw any mention of ‘you must hand over your Fed/State level id to firearm’s counter staff’!

I am sure you have a cite? [hint - myself i’d stick with the story it is AAFES’s policy]
 
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