• We are now running on a new, and hopefully much-improved, server. In addition we are also on new forum software. Any move entails a lot of technical details and I suspect we will encounter a few issues as the new server goes live. Please be patient with us. It will be worth it! :) Please help by posting all issues here.
  • The forum will be down for about an hour this weekend for maintenance. I apologize for the inconvenience.
  • If you are having trouble seeing the forum then you may need to clear your browser's DNS cache. Click here for instructions on how to do that
  • Please review the Forum Rules frequently as we are constantly trying to improve the forum for our members and visitors.

Expert on mass violence takes issue with presidential task force report on VA Tech shootings

markand

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 29, 2006
Messages
512
Location
VA
imported post

Great response to federal report on VA Tech massacre.

Link to complete article:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/6/20/112817.shtml?s=ic

A few excerpts:

"A leading expert on mass violence has taken issue with a presidential task force report delving into the Virginia Tech shootings and school violence in general, saying it fails to address the key issues."

"But Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, a former West Point instructor, declared: "I think they missed the boat.” Grossman is the author of several book including the Pulitzer Prize-nominated "On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society,” which is required reading for FBI recruits."

"Deter: The killer can be deterred. That is why there are seldom any successful workplace massacres in police stations. We need to start putting pressure on schools that refuse to arm their police.

"And of course we have the whole issue of not permitting concealed weapons permits to apply on campus. These are laws that disarm law-abiding citizens, and attract killers who want a body count.”

"Remember, if a gunman is trapped in a bank or convenience store with hostages, he isn’t there to kill people. But if a gunman takes hostages in a school, he can be there for only one purpose: to kill kids and to carve his name in history in your children's blood.”
 

LEO 229

Regular Member
Joined
Feb 21, 2007
Messages
7,606
Location
USA
imported post

"And of course we have the whole issue of not permitting concealed weapons permits to apply on campus. These are laws that disarm law-abiding citizens, and attract killers who want a body count.”

Exactly!!!!

This is why DC and parts of Maryland are so bad!!

The banning of guns just does not work they way they think. I was shocked to here DC rant about how bad things would get if the ban was lifted.

As if it is not bad already! :?
 

Dutch Uncle

Campaign Veteran
Joined
May 11, 2006
Messages
1,715
Location
Virginia, USA
imported post

For any of you who are not familiar with Grossman's work, I can strongly recommend his books. He is very astute and articulate, and clearly knows what he is talking about ( as opposed to the various liberal clabbertraps out there who couldn't put together a cogent argument if their lives depended on it).
 

CPerdue

Regular Member
Joined
Jun 13, 2006
Messages
235
Location
Salem, ,
imported post

If anyone has missed Grossman's, On Killing, it is worth the read. The psychology therein may help you out of a tough spot.
 
Top