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Colorado OC at ski resorts - Clear Creek, Jefferson Counties question

JamesB

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So would an escalator or elevator in a retail establishment be included in that interpretation?

It would seem so.
Luckily, the only ones I can think of anywhere in the state are in locations that already prohibit the Open Carry of firearms.(primarily shopping malls)

(there is an exception in the law for CC)
 
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So would an escalator or elevator in a retail establishment be included in that interpretation?

Not exactly...

The "public conveyance" clause in the CRS covers transportation to and from public property, including train stations, bus stops, and parks. it does not include transportation to and from areas considered private property, such as malls and ski resorts. If a gondola takes you from the middle of a city to the top of a nearby public mountain, it's a public conveyance. If it takes you from ski resort property to ski resort property, it's not a public conveyance.

Same goes for city buses and tax cabs, but for different reasons. City buses are a public conveyance. Tax cabs are not. You pay for both, but who owns the conveyance adds yet another dimension to the issue.
 
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Not exactly...

The "public conveyance" clause in the CRS covers transportation to and from public property, including train stations, bus stops, and parks. it does not include transportation to and from areas considered private property, such as malls and ski resorts. If a gondola takes you from the middle of a city to the top of a nearby public mountain, it's a public conveyance. If it takes you from ski resort property to ski resort property, it's not a public conveyance.

Same goes for city buses and tax cabs, but for different reasons. City buses are a public conveyance. Tax cabs are not. You pay for both, but who owns the conveyance adds yet another dimension to the issue.

Are you saying that a city bus from one mall to another mall as part of a normal route is not included? That would surprise me, but it is how I read your reply.
 

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I work for the Vail Resorts and I can guarantee that you will not be allowed on any of our lifts if you a carrying a gun, and it's been that way for the last 20 years I've worked here. Also, Beaver Creek is a private gated community that forbids open carry but allows concealed with the correct permit. I open carry in every other part of Eagle County and I've never been hassled.
 

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Not exactly...

The "public conveyance" clause in the CRS covers transportation to and from public property, including train stations, bus stops, and parks. it does not include transportation to and from areas considered private property, such as malls and ski resorts. If a gondola takes you from the middle of a city to the top of a nearby public mountain, it's a public conveyance. If it takes you from ski resort property to ski resort property, it's not a public conveyance.

Same goes for city buses and tax cabs, but for different reasons. City buses are a public conveyance. Tax cabs are not. You pay for both, but who owns the conveyance adds yet another dimension to the issue.

As was mentioned earlier, most ski resorts are on public land, so while the village may be owned by a resort, the destination is most likely public. We found that out when we got sued for not allowing people to ski if they hiked up. Mountain is free, lift is not.
 
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