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College Students Sign Petition To Confiscate All Guns and Imprison Gun Owners!

Aknazer

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So then unless you are a veteran, you aren't "American enough"? Say, doesn't that like conflict big time with the same Constitution your swear an oath to protect...?
Just wondering.

I don't agree that only military veterans should be considered a "citizen" and thus allowed to vote, but I wouldn't be against something for screening. What that "something" would be, I don't know, but something like a GED and a general test over the government (what its supposed to do, checks and balances, things like that) and the Constitution.

For me the concept isn't about directly restricting peoples ability to vote, but in making sure that they at least have a basic understanding of the Constitution, their government, and what the government is supposed to do. As opposed to now where even non-citizens and dead people are able to vote and so many people have no clue just what the government is supposed to do/provide.
 

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You do know that this isn't a birth certificate, don't you?*


* As per the SSA.

yes it is. All Washington birth certificates, at least since 1992, say "certification of live birth" and is embosed with a state seal, or in the case of my second Certification of live birth I had made as a spare, is certified by a King County Seal.
 

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yes it is. All Washington birth certificates, at least since 1992, say "certification of live birth" and is embosed with a state seal, or in the case of my second Certification of live birth I had made as a spare, is certified by a King County Seal.

Interesting. My "birth certificate" has the same title as yours yet the Social Security Administration told me that it is not a birth certificate and that I could not get a passport with it. Thinking this strange because that is what my mom gave me and I have used it for numerous documentations in the past, I checked my wife's and her's says, "Certificate of Birth" which I believe does make it a true birth certificate.

I was not being a smarta-- when I alerted you to this... just passing along some info I got first hand a few years ago.
 

EMNofSeattle

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Interesting. My "birth certificate" has the same title as yours yet the Social Security Administration told me that it is not a birth certificate and that I could not get a passport with it. Thinking this strange because that is what my mom gave me and I have used it for numerous documentations in the past, I checked my wife's and her's says, "Certificate of Birth" which I believe does make it a true birth certificate.

I was not being a smarta-- when I alerted you to this... just passing along some info I got first hand a few years ago.

I have no idea how your state does it. Washington does not issue any documents I've seen that are titled "Birth Certificate" they all say "certification of live birth" on the title, they're issued by the county you're born in, name the parents, location and date of birth, and the hospital if you were born in one. ....
 

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I have no idea how your state does it. Washington does not issue any documents I've seen that are titled "Birth Certificate" they all say "certification of live birth" on the title, they're issued by the county you're born in, name the parents, location and date of birth, and the hospital if you were born in one. ....

I've never heard or seen something called "Birth Certificate" either. I was born in Washington, DC and my wife was born in Arlington, VA and our "birth certificates are titled differently with mine having the work "live" in the title and hers missing this word.


And gentlemen, I must apologize for diverting this thread.
 
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Logan 5

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How so? Where in the Constitution and Bill of Rights was universal enfranchisement enacted?

There is no Federal Right to Vote or enfranchisement. The several subsequent amendments address prohibited restrictions on a state enfranchisement. There is no Federal enfreanchisement.
And where does it say that you must serve first? Or last? Or at all? In order to vote?

No federal right? I disagree.

15th Amendment
The right...to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

19th Amendment
The right...to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

24th Amendment
The right...to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

26th Amendment
The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.
 

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So many amendments. Need one final amendment: the right of any citizen to vote in state and federal elections shall not be infringed.

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Logan 5

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So many amendments. Need one final amendment: the right of any citizen to vote in state and federal elections shall not be infringed.

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Never thought I'd catch myself agreeing with you...but I'll be damned- it happened!
 
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