CHP -- right or wrong

[Sheriff]

God forbid your license come up with a concealed weapons permit...almost a ticket to just shoot you in the head for a culpeper cop.

The above is a quote from another thread. But I didn't want to burden the other thread with this discussion. Do you believe cops become more aggressive and offensive once a dispatcher announces a driver has a concealed weapon permit? I do. But it males very little sense. If I have just stopped a car, which do I want to know.... 1) a law abiding citizen and driver has a valid CHP, or 2) not know that a common criminal has a weapon and the system has no way to warn me about it.

Next, tell me what's right about dispatch publishing your name and your address when telling cops you have a concealed weapon permit? Last night I heard my local dispatch publish the names and addresses of at least a dozen people with permits. If I was a criminal, I now know a dozen homes I could break into with the hopes of finding free firearms for the taking. Think about it.... it places the homes and families of CHP holders in danger. Any criminal with a police scanner can cultivate a list of homes to hit in just a few days, enough to keep them busy for a few weeks. In larger cites than mine, dispatch probably broadcast 4 or 5 times the amount of CHP holders than they do in my city of 40,000 residents.

 

[ed]

telling cops you have a concealed weapon permit

I don't. I have a concealed handgun permit. What does this have to do with Open Carry in Virginia?

 

[Sheriff]

What does this have to do with Open Carry in Virginia?

Pretty close to nothing I suppose. But a lot of threads here eventually elude to concealed handgun permits. Concealed carry or open carry, I hate law enforcement advertising on police scanners that my residence as a pretty good place to break in to and find free handguns for the taking. I am not concerned for myself, because my residence is NOT on my DMV records. 99% of the population is though.

 

[Lincoln7]

I don't. I have a concealed handgun permit. What does this have to do with Open Carry in Virginia?

Because alot of the members here who open carry also possess CHPs. I have been pulled over while open carrying and the LEO confronted me with the knowledge that I possess a CHP.

 

[peter nap]

Because alot of the members here who open carry also possess CHPs. I have been pulled over while open carrying and the LEO confronted me with the knowledge that I possess a CHP.

Just one of the many perks involved in selling your soul!

 

[user]

I think there's something going on other than "officer safety". If they were really worried about officer safety, they wouldn't bother with people whose willingness to fill out the form, pay the money, and submit to a background check shows that they are law-abiding, socially responsible citizens; they'd be worried about all the cars they stop containing people they don't know about, who may or may not be armed criminals. So it's not about "officer safety", absent some kind of overt threat. There's some other agenda at work here. It may be as simple as individual "who's top dog here" kind of thing for cops who take gun ownershp as some kind of challenge. It could also be a concerted effort to disarm the population by a government that knows it has overstepped its bounds and is afraid of its own citizens.

 

[marshaul]

Just one of the many perks involved in selling your soul!

You said it. And one of the many reason I will never sell mine.

 

[Mayhem]

I have been stopped before and I have permit.

I have always told the them since I figured they would find out when they ran my name and ask later anyway. I have never had a problem.

One cop asked where it was and said "you leave yours in your holster.. and so will I" as he laughed. He thanked me for telling him and later gave me a warning ticket.

Another asked what I carried just out of curiosity. Again, not a big deal. I have never had a cop freak out and go on a power trip.

In regards to the dispatcher "publishing" or reporting to the officer that the person has a permit, I am not sure how this is an issue. I guess they feel it is important for officer safety just like if the guy has warrants or something. While I will not give the cops a hard time.. some other guy just might. Might be good to know he is probably armed. But I think I would just figure anyone could be armed anyway.

 

[Repeater]

I think there's something going on other than "officer safety". If they were really worried about officer safety, they wouldn't bother with people whose willingness to fill out the form, pay the money, and submit to a background check shows that they are law-abiding, socially responsible citizens; they'd be worried about all the cars they stop containing people they don't know about, who may or may not be armed criminals. So it's not about "officer safety", absent some kind of overt threat. There's some other agenda at work here. It may be as simple as individual "who's top dog here" kind of thing for cops who take gun ownershp as some kind of challenge. It could also be a concerted effort to disarm the population by a government that knows it has overstepped its bounds and is afraid of its own citizens.

With that in mind, what do you suppose is going on here:

Legislative scrutiny increases on traffic-fine revenue

Hopewell's so-called million-dollar mile is now pushing the $2 million mark in annual revenue for the cash-strapped city of smokestacks.

A traffic-enforcement program that runs 14 hours a day, seven days a week along a 1- to 2-mile section of Interstate 295 through the city has drawn the attention — and in some cases, ire — of some Virginia legislators and officials within the Virginia State Police.

The Hopewell Sheriff's Office, whose primary function is to provide courtroom security and serve civil-process papers, has carved out a special unit — complete with its own dispatching system — to focus solely on catching motorists who exceed the 70 mph speed limit as they pass briefly through Hopewell.

Eleven sheriff's deputies, all but one of whom are part time, wrote 14,778 tickets in 2011 with $2,056,387 in assessed fines, with more than $1.6 million of that being collected, the Sheriff's Office said. Seventy-five percent of those cited were from out of state.

The program, which Sheriff Greg Anderson started as a one-officer operation a year after he took office in 2006, has expanded over the past five years in personnel and revenue generated for the city.

Okay, enough of that. You can read the rest. The question is, with soooooo many people detained, how many "consent" searches do you reckon are conducted each year along that stretch of highway? How many weapons are seized?

Nice racket if you can get it -- by being elected.

 

[peter nap]

Nice racket if you can get it -- by being elected.

Yep!
Gun OWNER Registration makes it easy.