CC at its finest

[Bernymac]

You realize MPs don't even guard the post right? Check the news. There's video of who responded. Its not MPs. The base is secured by a separate police that's non military.

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You see there...you have just given Gecko21sfpistol the proverbial ammunition to bolster his "truth". It will now use the open carry of the DoD guards and that it did not prevent a crime. It will use that as a monkey would fling his own feces at everyone.

 

[Primus]

You see there...you have just given Gecko21sfpistol the proverbial ammunition to bolster his "truth". It will now use the open carry of the DoD guards and that it did not prevent a crime. It will use that as a monkey would fling his own feces at everyone.

Lol sorry.... I'll try to keep proverbial bananas away. And thank you for reminding its DOD police. I was having a brain fart of what they called themselves. Good catch.

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[Rusty Young Man]

Right. This is the inescapable conclusion of your arguments.

You said:



Why do OCers pass the problem on, but (it is implied) CCers do not? The only answer can be that OC acts as a deterrent, [strike]wasting the opportunity[/strike] obviating the need to shoot criminals who then, in your imagination, go on to do unspeakable things to the nearest pregnant mother (and her children).

From this it follows that, in your view, CC is better because it doesn't waste perfectly good opportunities to shoot bad guys.

Furthermore, you have made it clear that you yourself CC.

Therefore, you yourself have firmly established your preference for shooting bad guys over, say, scaring them off.

Finally, since you tacitly acknowledge that OC defers confrontation, and yet you maintain the superiority of CC, it is inarguable that you knowingly and intentionally make a choice which increases the probability of confrontation.

Given your clear, unambiguous, and stated preference for shooting people (vs. not shooting them) should potential confrontation arise, and your similarly unambiguous preference for increasing the chance of confrontation in the first place, it's no stretch to say that you "want to shoot people".

From this is easily follows that you also "want to kill people", unless your plan is to shoot them in the arms and legs.

QED.

1-2 for the knockout! Ouch.
Note the deafening silence on this from g21sfpistol...

 

[Red Dawg]

Military bases are a theoretical gun free zone. Just like any other, the only persons armed are the Police. As such, just like anywhere else that is a GFZ, you have to wait for them to respond. How the police force carries their weapon at response is irrelevant. But just like the statistics say, as soon as some one who was armed engaged the bad guy, they commited suicide..Not going to cite, but the news reports from the last few all pretty much say the same.

 

[Bernymac]

1-2 for the knockout! Ouch.
Note the deafening silence on this from g21sfpistol...

Or maybe it is just trying to consult the mages and wizards in the World of Warcraft (not that there's anything wrong with WOW) on how it can focus in on key words and rearrange to support his "truth" or just resort to name calling.

neener-neener-neener...you are all hypocrites...neener-neener-neener:shocker:

 

[Sir Diealotz]

 

[g21sfpistol]

Damn Grape don't boot him off too soon he is hilarious! (and sad)

Desperately trying to twist a tragedy into fitting his agenda, he's as bad as any Brady nutter.

OC of MP's wouldn't have deterred what this guy wanted to do, he had a very specific mission and was determined to carry it out. His mission wasn't one of robbing a store, or mugging someone, his mission was of death one where it appears his life was no longer of any value to himself. People who have given up the innate human nature of self preservation may not be deterred by openly carried weapons. These cases are rare, and like cop shooters (like four cops in Lakewood Washington who were gun downed) they don't have the usual modus operandi of the normal crooks we may run into.

Nice to see you have sunk to a new low though.

thanks for helping prove part of my point. that sad thing is you don't realize it. fun for me and others who get what point I'm trying to make.:banana:

 

[g21sfpistol]

I difference of opinion is not an unhealthy thing and is not in and of itself discouraged here.

When asked for a cite (per forum rules) he still only gives his version of what he read or infers w/o any acceptable/recognized source = no cite.

I have other, better things to do....like change the litter box and cleaning my shoes - don't ask how those two things are connected :uhoh:

The difference between a good post and an unacceptable one can be found by thinking about the preceding sentence.

Ever notice that cats never eat their dinner in the sand box. (rhetorical)

Allegorically, OCDO is not g21sfpistol's sandbox.

you have no cites and i just busted you out on it. don't be mad bro. in fact just keep cleaning the litter box and cleaning your shoes. good boy.:lol:

 

[g21sfpistol]

You realize MPs don't even guard the post right? Check the news. There's video of who responded. Its not MPs. The base is secured by a separate police that's non military.

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hey look a claim. any cites? prove there is no armed MPs on base. id be amazed if there wasn't. any base i have been on i have seen armed MPs

 

[g21sfpistol]

I agree that's why I like OCDO, I know I have learned tremendously and have adjusted my viewpoints over the years from the lively debate and difference of opinions here.

being a follower, because you can't make decisions for yourself, will do that to you

 

[sudden valley gunner]

being a follower, because you can't make decisions for yourself, will do that to you

No it's called rational debate and being open to the fact one's position may have been based on false faulty information.

 

[g21sfpistol]

:banana:

1-2 for the knockout! Ouch.
Note the deafening silence on this from g21sfpistol...

i have a life bro. im sorry i didn't respond with in you time frame. of course you have been silent for many posts. go clean shoes and clean the litter box with grape. afterwards you can have tea and tell OC stories while looking into each others eyes complimenting one another on your shiny guns that you never shoot.

 

[OC for ME]

No it's called rational debate and being open to the fact one's position may have been based on false faulty information.

Just a guess, but g21sfpistol may be the worst kind of gun owner, a liberal with a gun.

 

[g21sfpistol]

No it's called rational debate and being open to the fact one's position may have been based on false faulty information.

you and lots of people have lost my respect long ago when i tried to have rational conversation on others threads. anyone can go through and see i didn't try to pick a fight on the other threads. but you will deny that fact because you are a follower and thats what you do

 

[g21sfpistol]

Just a guess, but g21sfpistol may be the worst kind of gun owner, a liberal with a gun.

haha. making more false claims about me. you are going to be the first person in line when it becomes law to register guns.

 

[WalkingWolf]

haha. making more false claims about me. you are going to be the first person in line when it becomes law to register guns.

You already beat him to it. You registered as a concealed carry holder, unless your concealed carry is a water gun, YOU registered of your own free will.

Typical liberal...

 

[g21sfpistol]

You already beat him to it. You registered as a concealed carry holder, unless your concealed carry is a water gun, YOU registered of your own free will.

Typical liberal...

and posting on here isn't registering anything. :lol: or OCing. just because i have a permit doesn't mean i have a gun. here don't have to register guns. all it states is i have a CCW permit. maybe its for the knife I'm carrying? or my job requires it? doesn't mean i have one.

 

[Primus]

and posting on here isn't registering anything. :lol: or OCing. just because i have a permit doesn't mean i have a gun. here don't have to register guns. all it states is i have a CCW permit. maybe its for the knife I'm carrying? or my job requires it? doesn't mean i have one.

And you probably shouldn't have one... apt to shoot yourself or someone else with those quick draws from concealment....

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[Rusty Young Man]

:banana:

i have a life bro. im sorry i didn't respond with in you time frame. of course you have been silent for many posts. go clean shoes and clean the litter box with grape. afterwards you can have tea and tell OC stories while looking into each others eyes complimenting one another on your shiny guns that you never shoot.

Spare us your well-formed arguments and eloquence and just go to the heart of your argument.

I've yet to hear your reply on several questions from a few threads back. Specifically, when you made the claim that no one on OCDO would carry in large crowds because it increased the likelihood of gun-grabs beyond what situational awareness alone could cope with. I gave TWO examples of my own OC at large events here in Tucson on two different threads which were locked a good number of posts afterwards. You had more than enough time to respond each time, yet you just sidestepped and kept abusing the deceased equine (criminals target OCers, you'll be the first one shot, OCers are selfish, etc.).

As for shooting, it's true that I don't go as often as I should, but when forced to decide between tuition and ammo or between tuition and food, I guess I'm pretty selfish as an OCer to choose tuition and food, aren't I.
I do my best to supplement my range time with a CO2 pistol and drawing-from-the-holster drills though. Is it enough? Probably not, but given the circumstances, I'm doing what I can. Feel free to crack a joke about any of that. I'm sure it validates your argument all the more.

 

[marshaul]

you and lots of people have lost my respect long ago when i tried to have rational conversation on others threads. anyone can go through and see i didn't try to pick a fight on the other threads. but you will deny that fact because you are a follower and thats what you do

What actually happened is you made a number of half-brained, incompletely-thought-out, and otherwise amateurish arguments (of the sort many on this forum have encountered enough to destroy in our sleep), got pwned as a result, and then responded with childish antics.

At least I got a sig line out of you. :lol: