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Anti RKBA instructor.

mbogo470

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For the truly dense among you - the OP was not an attendee; he was accompanying his son to the class.

I know the mindset back east is to surrender in deference to 'authority', but this is not the same as being asked to mute your cellphone. The OP was told to remove his gun while at his own range by an outsider.

mbogo
 

wrightme

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For the truly dense among you - the OP was not an attendee; he was accompanying his son to the class.

I know the mindset back east is to surrender in deference to 'authority', but this is not the same as being asked to mute your cellphone. The OP was told to remove his gun while at his own range by an outsider.

mbogo

Are you sure about that?

Had an interesting experience this morning. I decided to take my 14 yr old son to the Boulder Rifle and Pistol Club for their junior program. The goal being to teach youngsters safety, shooting, and how to care for your firearms. No fee. All firearms and ammo provided.
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It's bad enough that we have to fight with the anti crowd, but it is just plain insane that we have to fight those who are supposed to be on our side. I will be writing to the club to see if they are standing behind him or not. At that time I will make a decision on whether to continue my long standing membership.

TBG

It appears that the class was a function OF the club, and TBG is a member of that club. I suppose that the club may hire a non-member as an instructor, though personally I would find that to be unlikely.
 
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The Big Guy

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Are you sure about that?



It appears that the class was a function OF the club, and TBG is a member of that club. I suppose that the club may hire a non-member as an instructor, though personally I would find that to be unlikely.

I'm sure he (instructor) is a member.

TBG
 

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SKID,I guess it is a thing of where you are from. it seems the N.VA, and the Nevada people are afraid of people carrying a firearms

I know down on the NC VA border they would be closed in no time. I know of a couple that don't like armed people but they do it to stay open

It' like the chief of police here in Mayberry told me one time that he was for the 2nd A but was against citizens carrying. with friends like that who needs enemies.

"if you want liberty for your self, you must protect it for your worst enemy", Thomas Payne
 

JamesCanby

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SKID,I guess it is a thing of where you are from. it seems the N.VA, and the Nevada people are afraid of people carrying a firearms

I know down on the NC VA border they would be closed in no time. I know of a couple that don't like armed people but they do it to stay open

It' like the chief of police here in Mayberry told me one time that he was for the 2nd A but was against citizens carrying. with friends like that who needs enemies.

"if you want liberty for your self, you must protect it for your worst enemy", Thomas Payne

What an absurd and off-topic comment. Tell that to the Northern Virginia people who regularly openly carry their firearm(s) just about wherever they go and the many people who attend training classes so that they can carry concealed if their circumstances or desires warrant them doing so.

The OP was about an over-bearing Instructor denying a parent the right to carry in a firearm training class that his son was attending, just because said Instructor had not "personally trained" the parent.

Some of the discussion segued into practical considerations and standard safety rules for conducting firearms training in a classroom, some of which was subject to divided, but respected opinion. It had nothing to do with the recognized right to carry a firearm in the public domain.

For you to suggest that any commentator in this thread, no matter where they happen to reside, "are afraid of people carrying a firearms" [sic] is just nonsense.
 

wrightme

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SKID,I guess it is a thing of where you are from. it seems the N.VA, and the Nevada people are afraid of people carrying a firearms
I know down on the NC VA border they would be closed in no time. I know of a couple that don't like armed people but they do it to stay open

It' like the chief of police here in Mayberry told me one time that he was for the 2nd A but was against citizens carrying. with friends like that who needs enemies.

"if you want liberty for your self, you must protect it for your worst enemy", Thomas Payne

That is absurd, given the comments in this thread. The person who started the thread IS a 'Nevada people,' as are many of those who are fully in agreement with him.
 

papa bear

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What an absurd and off-topic comment. Tell that to the Northern Virginia people who regularly openly carry their firearm(s) just about wherever they go and the many people who attend training classes so that they can carry concealed if their circumstances or desires warrant them doing so.

The OP was about an over-bearing Instructor denying a parent the right to carry in a firearm training class that his son was attending, just because said Instructor had not "personally trained" the parent.

Some of the discussion segued into practical considerations and standard safety rules for conducting firearms training in a classroom, some of which was subject to divided, but respected opinion. It had nothing to do with the recognized right to carry a firearm in the public domain.

For you to suggest that any commentator in this thread, no matter where they happen to reside, "are afraid of people carrying a firearms" [sic] is just nonsense.

That is absurd, given the comments in this thread. The person who started the thread IS a 'Nevada people,' as are many of those who are fully in agreement with him.

OK, I'll fix it
Skid, it looks like the candy azzes, are absurd and don't like people carrying armed!!!!

"if you can't trust me carrying everywhere , you can't trust me carrying any where," CRakes
 

JamesCanby

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OK, I'll fix it
Skid, it looks like the candy azzes, are absurd and don't like people carrying armed!!!!

"if you can't trust me carrying everywhere , you can't trust me carrying any where," CRakes

You think that's a "fix?" Perhaps you should reconsider your participation on this board if all you can come up with are ad hominem attacks.
 

wrightme

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OK, I'll fix it
Skid, it looks like the candy azzes, are absurd and don't like people carrying armed!!!!

"if you can't trust me carrying everywhere , you can't trust me carrying any where," CRakes
Who would those be?


So far, the ONLY ones indicating that the 'don't like people carrying armed,' are the instructor for that class.

The posters commenting in this thread have not given ANY indication that they 'don't like people carrying armed,' no matter what state they claim as residence.
 

MAC702

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As a member myself, I look forward to the answers you receive from the club, though I have found them wishy-washy and more than a little ignorant at the upper echelons of management. They actually have signs posted at the range that only 21-year-old adults are allowed to handle handguns. I honestly question if they even know the law in this regard.

I do not agree with the NRA's (and many clubs') rules of zero-tolerance for loaded firearms in classrooms. Like all zero-tolerance policies, it is indicative of laziness, and in this case, especially, it is counter-productive when trying to teach firearms as part of our individual liberties which is the basis for why we have them available for self-defense.

While NRA-certified, I will not teach NRA classes so am fortunately not bound by their idiocy in this regard. There is no "common sense" about their rule. The instructor may be technically following NRA rules or the club's rules, but "Paul" is an asshat for the way he handled it, certainly, and especially for giving very wrong reasons and showing his own personal ignorance, arrogance, and bias against unlicensed carriage of firearms.

I will also say that when I took my highest levels of NRA Instructor certification classes, we were a classroom full of instructors, and with the training counselor's blessing, every one of us maintained a loaded sidearm throughout the course, including in the classroom. That was a nice touch. And it was done in that same training classroom at that range. We all laughed as we covered the first "rule" of the classroom.

There are at least two of us that routinely open carry while shooting trap at that club; and in the presence of the club's Chief RSO, too.
 
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