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another school shooting
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carolina guy
Regular Member
Dammit!!
Firearms Iinstuctor
Regular Member
lots of misinformation out there.
E6chevron
Regular Member
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ct-school-shooter-made-combat-weapon-article-1.1220431
Well the school shooting in Sandy Hook, Connecticut, in which at least 26 people were killed, appears to have been committed by a 20 year old with some mental problems. His mother, whom he killed at home first, had bought & registered three weapons which he put in her car and then drove to the school she worked at:
Sig Sauer 9mm semi-auto pistol
Glock 9mm semi-auto pistol
Bushmaster .223caliber AR-15 style rifle with 30 round clip (left in car)
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57559179/china-school-knife-attack-leaves-23-injured/
Another tragic event today, that probably wouldn't have gotten much notice in our media, even withou this CT shooting taking place, happened in China where they have oppressive gun control, and a very significant problem recently with mass attacks at schools. Today 23 were injured by a man with a knife, at a school.
Weaons used in these attacks include an axe, boxcutter, meat cleaver as well as knifes.
Well the school shooting in Sandy Hook, Connecticut, in which at least 26 people were killed, appears to have been committed by a 20 year old with some mental problems. His mother, whom he killed at home first, had bought & registered three weapons which he put in her car and then drove to the school she worked at:
Sig Sauer 9mm semi-auto pistol
Glock 9mm semi-auto pistol
Bushmaster .223caliber AR-15 style rifle with 30 round clip (left in car)
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57559179/china-school-knife-attack-leaves-23-injured/
Another tragic event today, that probably wouldn't have gotten much notice in our media, even withou this CT shooting taking place, happened in China where they have oppressive gun control, and a very significant problem recently with mass attacks at schools. Today 23 were injured by a man with a knife, at a school.
Weaons used in these attacks include an axe, boxcutter, meat cleaver as well as knifes.
Cap'n Nemo
Regular Member
Connecticut gun laws
No way Adam Lanza could have done the shooting Connecticut guns laws were rated as the sxth toughest in the country by the Brady bunch(sarcasm). Connecticut gun laws explicitly prohibited Lanza from performing his heinous act (more sarcasm). Below are some of the Connecticut gun laws he violated. The laws are valid as of 2007.
29-28a. Application for permit. Notice of
decision to applicant.
No state or temporary state permit to
carry a pistol or revolver shall be issued under
this subsection if the applicant
(10) is less than twenty one
years of age.
29-34. False statement or information in
connection with sale or transfer of pistol or
revolver prohibited. Sale or transfer to person
under twenty-one years of age prohibited.
Temporary transfers. Penalties.
(a) No person shall make any false statement
or give any false information connected with any
purchase, sale, delivery or other transfer of any
pistol or revolver. Any person violating any provision
of this subsection shall be guilty of a class
D felony.
(b) No person shall sell, barter, hire, lend,
give, deliver or otherwise transfer to any person
under the age of twenty-one years any pistol or
revolver, except that a pistol or revolver may be
temporarily transferred to any person only for
the use by such person in target shooting or on
a firing or shooting range, provided such use is
otherwise permitted by law and is under the immediate
supervision of a person eligible to possess
a pistol or revolver. Any person violating
any provision of this subsection shall be guilty of
a class D felony for which one year of the sentence
imposed may not be suspended or
reduced by the court.
29-35. Carrying of pistol or revolver without
permit prohibited. Exceptions.
(a) No person shall carry any pistol or revolver
upon his or her person, except when such person
is within the dwelling house or place of business
of such person, without a permit to carry
the same issued as provided in section 29-28.
29-37j. Purchase of firearm with intent to
transfer it to person prohibited from purchasing
or possessing.
(a) Any person who purchases a firearm, as
defined in section 53a-3, pursuant to section 29-
33 or 29-37a with the intent to transfer such firearm
to any other person who the transferor
knows or has reason to believe is prohibited
from purchasing or otherwise receiving such a
firearm pursuant to section 29-33 or 29-37a shall
be fined not more than one thousand dollars or
imprisoned not more than five years or both.
(b) Any person prohibited from purchasing or
otherwise receiving or possessing a firearm and
who solicits, employs or assists any person in
violating the provisions of subsection (a) of this
section shall be guilty of a class B misdemeanor.
If the violation of subsection (a) of this section
involves a transfer of more than one firearm,
such person shall be guilty of a class A misdemeanor.
Each transfer shall constitute a separate
offense.
(c) Any person convicted of violating the provisions
of subsection (a) or (b) of this section
and who was convicted of a felony within the
prior five-year period shall be guilty of a class D
felony.
53-202a. Assault weapons: Definition.
(a) As used in this section and sections 53-
202b to 53-202k, inclusive, "assault weapon"
means:
(1) Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully
automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option
of the user or any of the following specified
semiautomatic firearms: Algimec Agmi; Armalite
AR-180; Australian Automatic Arms SAP Pistol;
Auto-Ordnance Thompson type; Avtomat Kalashnikov
AK-47 type; Barrett Light-Fifty model
82A1; Beretta AR-70; Bushmaster Auto Rifle
and Auto Pistol; Calico models M-900, M-950
and 100-P; Chartered Industries of Singapore
SR-88; Colt AR-15 and Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-
2, Max-1 and Max-2; Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and
MP-45; Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or
FN/FNC; FAMAS MAS 223; Feather AT-9 and
Mini-AT; Federal XC-900 and XC-450; Franchi
SPAS-12 and LAW-12; Galil AR and ARM;
Goncz High-Tech Carbine and High-Tech Long
Pistol; Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, HK-94
and SP-89; Holmes MP-83; MAC-10, MAC-11
and MAC-11 Carbine type; Intratec TEC-9 and
Scorpion; Iver Johnson Enforcer model 3000;
Ruger Mini-14/5F folding stock model only;
Scarab Skorpion; SIG 57 AMT and 500 series;
Spectre Auto Carbine and Auto Pistol; Springfield
Armory BM59, SAR-48 and G-3; Sterling
MK-6 and MK-7; Steyr AUG; Street Sweeper
and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns;
USAS-12; UZI Carbine, Mini-Carbine and Pistol;
Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson "Linda" Pistol;
53-202b. Sale or transfer of assault weapon
prohibited. Class C felony.
(a)(1) Any person who, within this state, distributes,
transports or imports into the state, keeps
for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who
gives any assault weapon, except as provided
by sections 29-37j and 53-202a to 53-202k, inclusive,
and subsection (h) of section 53a-46a,
shall be guilty of a class C felony and shall be
sentenced to a term of imprisonment of which
two years may not be suspended or reduced.
53a-217b. Possession of a weapon on school
grounds: Class D felony.
(a) A person is guilty of possession of a weapon
on school grounds when, knowing that such
person is not licensed or privileged to do so,
such person possesses a firearm or deadly
weapon, as defined in section 53a-3, (1) in or on
the real property comprising a public or private
elementary or secondary school or (2) at a
school-sponsored activity as defined in subsection
(h) of section 10-233a.
Some of these transgretions point to Lanza's mother but he is guilty by association. Never the less they were guilty acts that allowed him to posess the firearms. Any one of the statutes I quoted prohibited him from using the weapons he had in his posession. So much for gun laws. Gun laws only apply to the law abiding. What an Oxymoron.
No way Adam Lanza could have done the shooting Connecticut guns laws were rated as the sxth toughest in the country by the Brady bunch(sarcasm). Connecticut gun laws explicitly prohibited Lanza from performing his heinous act (more sarcasm). Below are some of the Connecticut gun laws he violated. The laws are valid as of 2007.
29-28a. Application for permit. Notice of
decision to applicant.
No state or temporary state permit to
carry a pistol or revolver shall be issued under
this subsection if the applicant
(10) is less than twenty one
years of age.
29-34. False statement or information in
connection with sale or transfer of pistol or
revolver prohibited. Sale or transfer to person
under twenty-one years of age prohibited.
Temporary transfers. Penalties.
(a) No person shall make any false statement
or give any false information connected with any
purchase, sale, delivery or other transfer of any
pistol or revolver. Any person violating any provision
of this subsection shall be guilty of a class
D felony.
(b) No person shall sell, barter, hire, lend,
give, deliver or otherwise transfer to any person
under the age of twenty-one years any pistol or
revolver, except that a pistol or revolver may be
temporarily transferred to any person only for
the use by such person in target shooting or on
a firing or shooting range, provided such use is
otherwise permitted by law and is under the immediate
supervision of a person eligible to possess
a pistol or revolver. Any person violating
any provision of this subsection shall be guilty of
a class D felony for which one year of the sentence
imposed may not be suspended or
reduced by the court.
29-35. Carrying of pistol or revolver without
permit prohibited. Exceptions.
(a) No person shall carry any pistol or revolver
upon his or her person, except when such person
is within the dwelling house or place of business
of such person, without a permit to carry
the same issued as provided in section 29-28.
29-37j. Purchase of firearm with intent to
transfer it to person prohibited from purchasing
or possessing.
(a) Any person who purchases a firearm, as
defined in section 53a-3, pursuant to section 29-
33 or 29-37a with the intent to transfer such firearm
to any other person who the transferor
knows or has reason to believe is prohibited
from purchasing or otherwise receiving such a
firearm pursuant to section 29-33 or 29-37a shall
be fined not more than one thousand dollars or
imprisoned not more than five years or both.
(b) Any person prohibited from purchasing or
otherwise receiving or possessing a firearm and
who solicits, employs or assists any person in
violating the provisions of subsection (a) of this
section shall be guilty of a class B misdemeanor.
If the violation of subsection (a) of this section
involves a transfer of more than one firearm,
such person shall be guilty of a class A misdemeanor.
Each transfer shall constitute a separate
offense.
(c) Any person convicted of violating the provisions
of subsection (a) or (b) of this section
and who was convicted of a felony within the
prior five-year period shall be guilty of a class D
felony.
53-202a. Assault weapons: Definition.
(a) As used in this section and sections 53-
202b to 53-202k, inclusive, "assault weapon"
means:
(1) Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully
automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option
of the user or any of the following specified
semiautomatic firearms: Algimec Agmi; Armalite
AR-180; Australian Automatic Arms SAP Pistol;
Auto-Ordnance Thompson type; Avtomat Kalashnikov
AK-47 type; Barrett Light-Fifty model
82A1; Beretta AR-70; Bushmaster Auto Rifle
and Auto Pistol; Calico models M-900, M-950
and 100-P; Chartered Industries of Singapore
SR-88; Colt AR-15 and Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-
2, Max-1 and Max-2; Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and
MP-45; Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or
FN/FNC; FAMAS MAS 223; Feather AT-9 and
Mini-AT; Federal XC-900 and XC-450; Franchi
SPAS-12 and LAW-12; Galil AR and ARM;
Goncz High-Tech Carbine and High-Tech Long
Pistol; Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, HK-94
and SP-89; Holmes MP-83; MAC-10, MAC-11
and MAC-11 Carbine type; Intratec TEC-9 and
Scorpion; Iver Johnson Enforcer model 3000;
Ruger Mini-14/5F folding stock model only;
Scarab Skorpion; SIG 57 AMT and 500 series;
Spectre Auto Carbine and Auto Pistol; Springfield
Armory BM59, SAR-48 and G-3; Sterling
MK-6 and MK-7; Steyr AUG; Street Sweeper
and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns;
USAS-12; UZI Carbine, Mini-Carbine and Pistol;
Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson "Linda" Pistol;
53-202b. Sale or transfer of assault weapon
prohibited. Class C felony.
(a)(1) Any person who, within this state, distributes,
transports or imports into the state, keeps
for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who
gives any assault weapon, except as provided
by sections 29-37j and 53-202a to 53-202k, inclusive,
and subsection (h) of section 53a-46a,
shall be guilty of a class C felony and shall be
sentenced to a term of imprisonment of which
two years may not be suspended or reduced.
53a-217b. Possession of a weapon on school
grounds: Class D felony.
(a) A person is guilty of possession of a weapon
on school grounds when, knowing that such
person is not licensed or privileged to do so,
such person possesses a firearm or deadly
weapon, as defined in section 53a-3, (1) in or on
the real property comprising a public or private
elementary or secondary school or (2) at a
school-sponsored activity as defined in subsection
(h) of section 10-233a.
Some of these transgretions point to Lanza's mother but he is guilty by association. Never the less they were guilty acts that allowed him to posess the firearms. Any one of the statutes I quoted prohibited him from using the weapons he had in his posession. So much for gun laws. Gun laws only apply to the law abiding. What an Oxymoron.
Carryon
Regular Member
Tragedy. Tough situation.
Another example is not exclusive to USA. 21 attacked at school in China with knife yesterday. http://www.gopusa.com/news/2012/12/...acked-by-knife-wielding-suspect/?subscriber=1
Another example is not exclusive to USA. 21 attacked at school in China with knife yesterday. http://www.gopusa.com/news/2012/12/...acked-by-knife-wielding-suspect/?subscriber=1
Cap'n Nemo
Regular Member
Firearms Iinstuctor
Regular Member
As stated many times before.
GUN CONTROL ISN'T ABOUT CRIME CONTROL, IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE CONTROL.
GUN CONTROL ISN'T ABOUT CRIME CONTROL, IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE CONTROL.