Ah..California Gov’s new election bill...

[solus]

California Gov. Gavin Newsom has reportedly decided to sign a controversial bill requiring that all presidential candidates publish their tax returns to appear on the state’s primary ballot.

You go...state being led by idiots...

 

[WalkingWolf]

Waste of time, and paper. No republican/conservative candidate will carry Kal in a federal election. Since votes are counted by state, and a candidate either wins the electoral college votes in that state or not it means jack. What I do expect is a federal lawsuit by conservatives in the state. It also does not stop write ins, unless they are going to make that illegal also.

 

[color of law]

I find this odd since filing a tax return is a voluntary act.

 

[2a4all]

WW, the OP's statement says "Primary Ballot", so the Electoral College isn't involved. Surely the Republicans of California (there are some, aren't there?) can nominate a candidate.

 

[hammer6]

The requirements for POTUS are laid out in our Constitution. This can't be changed without a Constitutional amendment.

 

[solus]

Moot point IMHO as out of a state of 37M only 11M voted and two thirds of those voted for Hillary...

FYI hammer6 i believe the states can control criteria for the process of election as long as age/ethnicity/ad nauseam aren’t violated per se.

 

[Doug_Nightmare]

So - hypothetically - Newsome actually prevents the Republican nominee from the ballot for the tax issue, there’s no defense? BS

 

[solus]

So - hypothetically - Newsome actually prevents the Republican nominee from the ballot for the tax issue, there’s no defense? BS

Whom is paying for this alledged defence against this obvious travesty doug?

Oh wait doug...who is stepping out & up to instigate this effort.

 

[hammer6]

FYI hammer6 i believe the states can control criteria for the process of election as long as age/ethnicity/ad nauseam aren’t violated per se.

Not if it violates my free speech

 

[KBCraig]

Government should never conduct or be involved in primary elections. How parties choose their nominees should be up to the party, and should be done at the party's expense.

 

[color of law]

Government should never conduct or be involved in primary elections. How parties choose their nominees should be up to the party, and should be done at the party's expense.

Agree. Also, federal tax returns are considered private and confidential. Demanding a release of a personal tax return without probable cause of a crime and is an unconditional act.

 

[CJ4wd]

KB & CoL - both good points.

 

[hammer6]

Agree. Also, federal tax returns are considered private and confidential. Demanding a release of a personal tax return without probable cause of a crime and is an unconditional act.

unless you're a government agent.

 

[color of law]

unless you're a government agent.

A state cannot legalally demand a federal tax return from one of their citizens even if the citizen is a federal agent/employee. The IRS cannot even turn over a federal tax return to a state without a federal court order. However, the IRS does provide an abstract of what is in a citizen's federal return to that citizen's state tax officals.

If you know otherwise, please state.

 

[solus]

Government should never conduct or be involved in primary elections. How parties choose their nominees should be up to the party, and should be done at the party's expense.

So KB, who pays for the elections in NH? Who pays for the ballot machines? Who pays for the training?
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Pinning down how much it costs to administer an election is notoriously difficult. Part of the difficulty is that several levels of government—states, counties, municipalities and even special districts—have a hand in running (and paying for) elections.

Elections in the U.S. are usually run at the county level, though in several New England and Midwestern states they are run at the city or township level. This means that there are more than 10,000 jurisdictions that have primary responsibility for running elections in the country--and that’s not counting the subdivisions within those jurisdictions. Unquote

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/election-costs.aspx

Hummm...so KB if in NH the governmental jurisdiction isn’t organizing nor paying who is? Who owns, maintains, and stores the ballot machines and other equipment?

 

[hammer6]

A state cannot legalally demand a federal tax return from one of their citizens even if the citizen is a federal agent/employee. The IRS cannot even turn over a federal tax return to a state without a federal court order. However, the IRS does provide an abstract of what is in a citizen's federal return to that citizen's state tax officals.

If you know otherwise, please state.

It's a joke man. The government can do whatever it wants because the majority of our citizens are sheep that bootlick cops and all government agents. that's all.

 

[KBCraig]

So KB, who pays for the elections in NH? Who pays for the ballot machines? Who pays for the training?
Quote
Pinning down how much it costs to administer an election is notoriously difficult. Part of the difficulty is that several levels of government—states, counties, municipalities and even special districts—have a hand in running (and paying for) elections.

Elections in the U.S. are usually run at the county level, though in several New England and Midwestern states they are run at the city or township level. This means that there are more than 10,000 jurisdictions that have primary responsibility for running elections in the country--and that’s not counting the subdivisions within those jurisdictions. Unquote

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/election-costs.aspx

Hummm...so KB if in NH the governmental jurisdiction isn’t organizing nor paying who is? Who owns, maintains, and stores the ballot machines and other equipment?

Please note that I don't defend how NH does it versus any other state.

NH is very proud of hosting "first in the nation" primaries. I've argued against them, but that's a political non-starter here. I think FITN poisons our state and local political relationships by inviting a huge amount of outside money on the outdated theory of, "As NH goes, so goes the nation." During the primary campaign season, you can't turn around without bumping into some random presidential candidate walking down Main Street looking to shake hands -- and I live in a town of 3,500 way up in the skinny end of the state.

The famous Dixville Notch midnight vote is fraudulent, because Dixville doesn't even have any residents.

But back to your point: yes, elections in NH are funded at the municipal level, to the degree that they require any funding at all. Ballots are supplied by the NH Secretary of State, and everyone involved in the local ballot count is a volunteer. Not many of them use machines at all, and that's good. Hand-counted paper ballots are more accurate, and the vote counters in the two towns that comprise my district got it exactly right. The recount in my race had the exact same numbers as the election night count; both counts were done by hand.

 

[solus]

Tks for your candor...

So government is conducting election which runs contrary to your previous post?

 

[color of law]

A couple of years ago, one of our school boards decided to beg for money they didn't need and were lying about the intend use and claiming they were out of money The ballot issue was on the regular November election schedule. By huge numbers it went down to defeat. In great wisdom they paid $250,000. for a special election. It went down again. Everybody wanted to know where the school board got the money if they were broke. Next election it didn't go well for the board members.

 

[KBCraig]

Tks for your candor...

So government is conducting election which runs contrary to your previous post?

That isn't contrary to my previous post. I never said they weren't doing it, only that they shouldn't be doing it.