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South Caroline Pub posts incredibly rude sign against firearms carriers

OC for ME

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Based on "non-gun" related critiques of the food, service, staff, and "ambiance", this minor incident is likely just one more nail in the coffin so to speak. It seems that a gun in that establishment is the very least of management's worries.
 

davidmcbeth

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While the sign makes no rational sense, the owner does have the right to post it. Let's all rise above the situation. We shouldn't wish anything bad happen there because of the sign. Rather, those of you in the area should visit the competition (often.) One step at a time.

If one looks as RKBA as also a civil right, then no - he does not have the right to post that any more than saying "No Irish"
 

marshaul

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If one looks as RKBA as also a civil right, then no - he does not have the right to post that any more than saying "No Irish"

No, David "Might Makes Right" McBeth. Government does not create rights. Government was not able to create a right for Irishmen to go wherever they wish. Government instead infringes on the right of Irish-haters to ban the Irish from their establishments.
 

Herfmonster

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Based on the instruction given to me by my CCW instructor who is a retired US Marshall and helped write SC handgun laws and advises district attorneys on how to interpret those laws.

YOU CAN LEGALLY IGNORE HIS SIGN

The only thing he can do if your handgun accidentally becomes visible and he sees it or someone sees it and complains is he can ask you to leave and can only prosecute you if you refuse to do so

Here is the SC law on the signs

SECTION 23-31-235. Sign requirements.

(A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this article, any requirement of or allowance for the posting of signs prohibiting the carrying of a concealable weapon upon any premises shall only be satisfied by a sign expressing the prohibition in both written language interdict and universal sign language.

(B) All signs must be posted at each entrance into a building where a concealable weapon permit holder is prohibited from carrying a concealable weapon and must be:

(1) clearly visible from outside the building;

(2) eight inches wide by twelve inches tall in size;

(3) contain the words "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" in black one-inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

(4) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle seven inches in diameter with a diagonal line that runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty-five degree angle from the horizontal;

(5) a diameter of a circle; and

(6) placed not less than forty inches and not more than sixty inches from the bottom of the building's entrance door.

(C) If the premises where concealable weapons are prohibited does not have doors, then the signs contained in subsection (A) must be:

(1) thirty-six inches wide by forty-eight inches tall in size;

(2) contain the words "NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED" in black three- inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

(3) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle thirty-four inches in diameter with a diagonal line that is two inches wide and runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty-five degree angle from the horizontal and must be a diameter of a circle whose circumference is two inches wide;

(4) placed not less than forty inches and not more than ninety-six inches above the ground;

(5) posted in sufficient quantities to be clearly visible from any point of entry onto the premises.


does his sign look like this?

NoConcealableWeapons.png

If not then it is not an enforceable sign.
 

MAC702

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Based on the instruction given to me by my CCW instructor who is a retired US Marshall and helped write SC handgun laws and advises district attorneys on how to interpret those laws.

YOU CAN LEGALLY IGNORE HIS SIGN...

Yes, but the only reason we'd want to ignore it is to patronize his establishment and give this d-bag (he signed the sign) money.
 

hp-hobo

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Based on the instruction given to me by my CCW instructor who is a retired US Marshall and helped write SC handgun laws and advises district attorneys on how to interpret those laws.

YOU CAN LEGALLY IGNORE HIS SIGN

Blah, blah, blah, blah blah...
Yes you can, but why? Why would you want to enter a business that doesn't want you to be able to protect yourself? Why would you want to enter a business with a sign out front that says "Victim disarmament zone, criminals please enter here"? Why would you want to give your money to a business that does not respect your civil rights?

You are most certainly within your legal right to patronize this establishment (or another like it). But by doing so you're no better than the person who posted the sign because by giving them your business you're supporting their actions. And then you could be very proud of yourself for doing so...
 

MKEgal

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Kopis said:
People are loading that place up with reviews! (and mostly negative)
And Yelp is deleting them; probably the restaurant has someone reporting them, and the anti's are reporting the bad reviews. I got email notices for mine that they apparently did not conform to the TOS, were suspicious because of when they were posted, and I would not be allowed to post any more about that bar.
 
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