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1000 ft of school

jeff niles

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I just read on channel 3000 web sight gov will sign the bill, but it still says not within 1000 ft of a school. Am I missing some thing? HOPE NOT!! If someone really knows the bill says, let me know thanks. Jeff
 
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MKEgal

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My sig has the bill & the FAQ.
On school grounds is still a felony.
Within 3 blocks without a permit will be a forfeiture of up to $1000.
Within 3 blocks with a permit will be OK.

I'd like to get clarification of whether the sidewalk is still considered public property or it is 'school grounds',
and if carrying in a car while driving through a school zone requires a permit.
(I think public property, & yes.)
 

jpm84092

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"On the grounds" probably has the "reasonable person" definition and thus would not likely include a public sidewalk. Where it could get murky is when sidewalks go through a campus grounds of a school that is K - 12. I can't think of any examples, but there may be some.

The more I read the interpretation from the Senior Counsel of the Office of the Wisconsin Legislative Counsel to Senator Pam Galloway the more I am struck at just how modest the training requirement is. Any NRA Course that included instruction in firearms safety will do, any military training that included firearms will do, any hunter safety course offered in any state will do.

And in a twist that few states do, WI equalized out of state permits for the 1000 foot GFSZ (translation: free kill zone). It would still be a federal offense, but one would have to have the State involve the Feds. (UT considers any out of state permit to be equal to a UT permit for purposes of the UT GFSZ.)

Carry on.
 

Yooper

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And in a twist that few states do, WI equalized out of state permits for the 1000 foot GFSZ (translation: free kill zone). It would still be a federal offense, but one would have to have the State involve the Feds. (UT considers any out of state permit to be equal to a UT permit for purposes of the UT GFSZ.)

Carry on.

What the legislature is attempting to do is exempt out of state holders from the FEDERAL GFSZA.

Sec 38, 175.60 (2)(d) (I hope thats right) states: (d) For purposes of 18 USC 922 (q) (2) (B) (ii), an
out−of−state licensee is licensed by this state.

18 USC 922(q)(2)(B)(ii) is the FEDERAL exemption to the FEDERAL GFSZA which states that a person must be licensed by the state in which the school zone occurs.
 

qball54208

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My sig has the bill & the FAQ.
On school grounds is still a felony.
Within 3 blocks without a permit will be a forfeiture of up to $1000.
Within 3 blocks with a permit will be OK.

I'd like to get clarification of whether the sidewalk is still considered public property or it is 'school grounds',
and if carrying in a car while driving through a school zone requires a permit.
(I think public property, & yes.)
Technically, the side walk is NOT part of school property, reason being approx 33' from the center of the road perpendicular (66' in all) is reserved as "terrace" meaning simply that area is "public domain" The general "rule" is from utility pole across the roadway to utility pole. That is refereed to as a "utility easement", meaning that it is used for public right of way.
 
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